*currently help needed* Adding a new level of City or Castle

**Renown** · May 19, 2009, 09:00 PM

G'day.

I've been away from the editing of M2TW for a while, and I apologize if this has been covered before.

I was just wondering, am I able to code in another level of city, say from Huge to Massive, and from a Citadel to Star Fortress (which is already partially imbedded in some of the code throughout the text files)

This is important, as it will allow me to do place special cities and castles for each faction. - relating to the TATW mod.

**Gigantus** · May 20, 2009, 06:59 AM

Should be possible, just don't forget the entries in the settlement_mechanics XML file. You will need all those models as well (as you said - TATW special).

**Renown** · May 20, 2009, 12:56 PM

brilliant. Its much easier making 9 new buildings, and adding in two upgrades in terms of cities/castles then adding in 9 completely new factions for what im trying to do.

**Gigantus** · May 20, 2009, 01:34 PM

One is glad to be of service

PS: Don't forget the hardcoded limits:

Building Trees 128
Buildings in Tree 9

**Renown** · May 20, 2009, 01:40 PM

ah yes thanks

**Renown** · May 22, 2009, 02:55 PM

14:46:41.829 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/Third_Age/data/descr_cultures.txt, at line 65, column 1
Expected a settlement level, found massive_city
14:46:43.180 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

is this delightful error i'm receiving when launching my game.

I've added massive_city references to all the files I can think of.

my building descr looks like this ..

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my culture is this

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my settlement mech file is

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even edited the off_map models, and the battle_ai file to include massive_city.

help!

double checked the culture file, and noticed that the settlement level for Huge and massive were the same. Changed all massive references to 7. No change.

im beginning to wonder if this is hardcoded. i've looked but not found anything that specifically mentions this.

**Gigantus** · May 22, 2009, 09:44 PM

1. It could be hard coded
2. It might need a corresponding castle level 6 .

These lines appear to be missing at the end of your EDB entry

Code:

        }
    }
    plugins 
    {
    }
}

**Renown** · May 23, 2009, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by gigantus

1. It could be hard coded
2. It might need a corresponding castle level 6 .

These lines appear to be missing at the end of your EDB entry

Code:

        }
    }
    plugins 
    {
    }
}

as to the corresponding castle (level 7

) you may be right.. i'll look into that tomorrow. Now i'm off to figure out why I can't get this damn unit to stop crashing my game ... when i know it works... i hate the modeldb files. Hate.

yes, but that line was empty prior to my editing it.

I think I read somewhere that you can't add a new city level, but you can add a new castle level...

If this is true.. then damn. But i'll check it... when i get the time, damnit.. Every day Im editing something new that just ctds... all my work today has led to dead ends in one CTD doing this and another doing that... and I'M METICULOUS about editing all the files... so i'm amazed folks get anything done at all.. no surprises it takes months *years even* for some of the mods to come out.

**makanyane** · May 23, 2009, 01:10 AM

I think I read somewhere that you can't add a new city level, but you can add a new castle level...

I have same problem though trying to add castle to lowest level of castle core buildings.... have tried:

Code:

village
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_village.CAS,		settlement_eastern_level_1
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_village.tga
}
star_fort
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_wooden_castle.CAS,		settlement_eastern_level_1
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_village.tga
}
town

in cultures and am getting same type of error

06:48:56.625 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods\WD_PKH/data/descr_cultures.txt, at line 15, column 1
Expected a settlement level, found star_fort

it loaded happily with star_fort (I thought that name might help in case of hardcoding) as the lowest level core castle building in EDB, but crashes as soon as I try entering it into cultures...

**Renown** · May 23, 2009, 01:38 AM

try editing star fort as the LARGEST - it is mentioned in many text files i've been editing. Tell me if that helps.

There are also A LOT of places that reference castles...

i've noticed even slight formating errors trigger crashes.

Don't give up until you've tried EVERYTHING.

And then try it again because you may have made a formatting error.

I want to crack this.

(I'm wondering if part of the issue might have to do with a graphic/layout being needed for the city/fort on the battlemap.) I'd really love it if we could get some help on this from someone who has fooled around with it.

**makanyane** · May 23, 2009, 07:01 AM

no dice with that sorry - got as far as having it in EDB and descr_settlement_mechanics, which gets me to it showing up in building browser (don't worry about the Woodsman bit, that's just from copy/paste in export_buildings.txt/bin)

city doesn't let me build it though even though there is enough population in city...

as soon as I try to put it in descr_cultures I get same type of error as we've had before at its new line position.

don't think it's anything to do with it looking for battle model.. when my mod's working the system log file doesn't get to caching .worldpkgdesc files till about line 50000 - my star_fort attempts are crashing at 14000 ish.. I did anyway try making a .worldpkgdesc with 'type star_fort' instead of 'type fortress' and that didn't change anything.

btw; all I really need for my mod is the ability to have a medium height siege tower turn up for battles at a motte_and_bailey level castle and a small one for battles at town level.... can change height for both at once by changing descr_walls.txt but am failing miserably to change them separately (the wall_level in EDB doesn't seem to do anything)

@Renown - did you know you can have faction specific models for existing town /castle levels? If you've got any spare faction slots you could have a dead faction as creator of a city/castle at the max level so it can't be upgraded into something else.

**Renown** · May 23, 2009, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by makanyane

no dice with that sorry - got as far as having it in EDB and descr_settlement_mechanics, which gets me to it showing up in building browser (don't worry about the Woodsman bit, that's just from copy/paste in export_buildings.txt/bin)

city doesn't let me build it though even though there is enough population in city...

as soon as I try to put it in descr_cultures I get same type of error as we've had before at its new line position.

don't think it's anything to do with it looking for battle model.. when my mod's working the system log file doesn't get to caching .worldpkgdesc files till about line 50000 - my star_fort attempts are crashing at 14000 ish.. I did anyway try making a .worldpkgdesc with 'type star_fort' instead of 'type fortress' and that didn't change anything.

btw; all I really need for my mod is the ability to have a medium height siege tower turn up for battles at a motte_and_bailey level castle and a small one for battles at town level.... can change height for both at once by changing descr_walls.txt but am failing miserably to change them separately (the wall_level in EDB doesn't seem to do anything)

@Renown - did you know you can have faction specific models for existing town /castle levels? If you've got any spare faction slots you could have a dead faction as creator of a city/castle at the max level so it can't be upgraded into something else.

sigh i think we will figure something out.

And yes. I did, unfortunately I found that out when I was CREATING new factions.

I just created 9 new factions and thus had to remove their special faction buildings because it was all 'skrewed' =).

I may end up just limiting the max building of some of my factions and do that anyways...

there are a couple of factions that do not need anything larger then a castle, or a city.

but using dead factions alone is limiting as I plan to max out the hardcoded limits.

**Eothese** · May 23, 2009, 03:49 PM

Did you add reference to export_descr_buildings_enums.txt? Don't know if its needed for sure off hand... I tried to add a tower level some time ago and couldn't get that to work, so good luck!

**Renown** · May 23, 2009, 04:12 PM

i know you cant add tower or wall levels.

Theres something against that.

But considering there are references to a HIGHER LEVEL of castle throughout the text files, i presumed it was possible. Plus I vaguely remember reading somewhere that someone did what we are trying to do.

**makanyane** · May 23, 2009, 05:35 PM

there seems to be something hard-coded about the names of levels it will accept in cultures.txt - I've tried duplicating and moving around entries and although it doesn't get you anywhere game is quite happy to accept 2x citadels per culture or village at top level...

have tried shift of wooden_pallisade and town from city section to castle section - that again works to an extent... EDB is happy and town/pallisade will show up in building browser, and new position is accepted in cultures file... but I still can't actually build anymore levels of castle. If I put 'town' at end I can't build it - put below citadel I can build it but not citadel eg:

having built the wooden_pallisade at a castle settlement that started at lower castle level in descr_strat - its now decided on strat map that it's become a 'citadel' already and won't let me build the additional level, (which is old citadel entry)

abreviated version of file changes
EDB:

building core_castle_building
{
convert_to core_building
levels motte_and_bailey wooden_castle castle fortress wooden_pallisade citadel

with wooden_pallisade entry added in sequence below

cultures:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Code:

{
moot_and_bailey
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_wooden_castle.CAS,		settlement_eastern_level_1
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_village.tga
}
village
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_town.CAS,			settlement_eastern_level_2
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_town.tga
}
wooden_castle
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_stone_keep.CAS,			settlement_eastern_level_2
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_town.tga
}
large_town
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_large_town.CAS,	settlement_eastern_level_3
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_large_town.tga
}
castle
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_castle.CAS,	settlement_eastern_level_3
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_large_town.tga
}
city
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_city.CAS,			settlement_eastern_level_4
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_city.tga
}
fortress
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_large_castle.CAS,			settlement_eastern_level_4
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_city.tga
}
large_city
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_large_city.CAS,	settlement_eastern_level_5
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_large_city.tga
}
town
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_fortress.CAS,	settlement_eastern_level_5
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_large_city.tga
}
huge_city
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_huge_city.CAS,		settlement_eastern_level_6
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_huge_city.tga
}
citadel
{
	normal				data/models_strat/residences/southern_european_huge_city.CAS,		settlement_eastern_level_6
	card				data/ui/southern_european/cities/graeco-roman_huge_city.tga
}
}

settlement mechanics

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

I think from fact that my settlement has decided it's a citadel - after I built the 5th level which is now town there, that it is showing some sort of hard coding relating to the number and useage of the various levels.

**Renown** · May 23, 2009, 08:28 PM

interesting. i'm still unconvinced that this is the end of the issue.

Someone else, somewhere has tackled this...

we should check some of the foreign mods.. like some of the chinese ones.. they've done wonders finding the limits of the game.

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