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    Members of the TWC Community.

    While using Admin CP to promote a few Civis to Patricians, to my surprise, I found a recent series of moderator actions by Paul. Checking his moderator logs I found the following,

    For Paul to be deleting posts without permission from the staff (taken by vote) is a violation under the Syntagma. He hasn't moderatered in 9 months so why the burst of action.
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    An imperator seat to Paul Dacoste, he is the overseer of the Empire Forums. His opinion, very influential, his vote is equal to all. He is to be consulted only on matters of the prolonged absence of a Triumvirate and then only if there is a problem which is deemed fit. That is, the staff will vote on whether to give Dacoste powers dictatorial and ask him to come to our aid?
    To put it mildly I was stunned. Knowing that time is often of the essence and willing to take the fallout and consequences of this later I took the following actions;
    1. Made Paul a Senatorii Vechii and removed his access to Admin CP.
    2. Changed the passwords of the Hexagon.
    3. Removed admin access to two accounts that have been unused for a year.
    4. Advised both Mithras and Besim of the situation and asked them to backup the forum. I also asked them for information regarding Ogresnet guidelines under this situation.
    5. Sent a PM to Siblesz advising him of the situation and asking for advice.

    This morning, while trying to sort though the actions of the previous night, I noticed a number of deletions from the board. Moderator actions has been logged by Siblesz's account deleting the whole of EB,
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    Not know exactly what was going on here, but knowing this is highly illegal under the Syntagma, I used the Hexagon account and changed the status of the Triumvirs to hold the title but not the power. Basically I removed their abilities to with Admin CP and Mod CP. They are able to post freely and access the staff forums at this time. Once this matter is fully and thoroughly investigated I will present the information and let the Civitates decide on their status.

    After this move I noticed Besim, an Ogresnet staff member, continue to delete the modding community forums. I PM'ed Besim to no avail then noticed something unusual,


    These infractions were all done from the same IP number which will be forwarded to Ogresnet.
    These have all been initiated by the same person. I have thus removed all admin powers from all accounts accept the Hexagon and sent an email to Ogresnet to let them know what has happened. I did a check and the Ogrenet staff do not use these numbers.


    That is where things stand. I offer my appologies to ALL members affected by this immature and illegal stunt. This at no time had been discussed with and would never have received approval even if it had been. At this time I am not implicating either Siblesz or NM as these accounts may have been compromised. I will keep the community informed of everything we discover.

    Please bear with us in this troubled time.

    EDIT:: The IP's are unclear in the above post. I will provide a fuller image very soon.

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    I will make a public statement informing everyone that I told you to take over the site. Pleas egive me some time to do so. I am overrun with PM and emails and IMs at the moment.


    UPDATE:we will revert the forums back to the last backup which is from Tuesday. This will happen in 30 minutes all posts for today will be lost -sorry.

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    So there is no info on why this character chose to attack the three biggest mods on TWC?

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    given that these actions were logged by both siblesz and besim using the same IP address, i find it hard to believe that these actions were taken by those people...

    howqever, given the current situation, and the need for immediate action to be taken, i wholly support sullas actions. they were for the benefit of the community.

    hopefully, as other members of staff wake up, especially saiblesz and GEN we can resolve this issue, find out what actually happened, and restore a state of normality to the board.

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    Perhaps an admin, worried that the RTR V EB debate was consuming TWC's repuation, hastily moved to cover the evidence up...but in doing so unleashed a stunt far worse than anticipated!


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    Lol, TWC got hacked! I'd love to meet the guy who did this and firmly shake his ha...I mean punch his face in! The rotten bastard is not to get away with this *tongue*

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    Well done Sulla. Full support.

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    So it would appear that the answer to the 'who' question remains unasnwered. Is there any hope of tracing this IP? I think it's fairly clear that the accounts have been compromised. I too wholly support Sulla's actions. Until this matter can be resolved I suggest Sulla (and the other Praetors if need be) do what they feel neccessary. :8
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    Sulla has acted with a quick hand and probably saved a lot of posts that would have been lost if he wasn't here. I don't see anything wrong with his actions up until now. Once all the facts are know I hope this place can get back to some sense of normality.
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    Well done to the staff for their quick actions. You guys might have saved TWC.
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    I move that Sulla is granted recognition for his heroic acts in the face of great danger!
    HAIL, SULLA, SAVIOUR OF TWC!


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    Originally posted by Lord Tomyris@May 25 2005, 10:07 AM
    I move that Sulla is granted recognition for his heroic acts in the face of great danger!
    HAIL, SULLA, SAVIOUR OF TWC!
    How like history.

    However, I tip my hat (figurativly) to you Sulla

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    I locked out all admin and mod CP access from all suspicious accounts. I believe whoever is responsible was planning to delete everything. The deletions stopped only when I stopped them.

    Also an account was made this morning called,
    $GRAVER$
    and was given admin access and Mod CP access. I removed these powers.

    Sulla,
    Using the Hex account.

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    But if the accounts of Paul, Sib etc were compromised, what is to stop the same thing happening to the Hexagon account, or whatever accounts still have admin privileges? If you take admin access from one account, can't the perpetrator simply hack another one?


    EDIT - Ah, I see, only Sulla has admin powers now, and he's logged on at the moment. Good thinking.
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    Is there anyone with reason to hate TWC enough to do this?
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    Lets not try and draw conclusions just yet. If we point the finger at someone who is innocent then that can only lead to a situation thats bad for TWC :8
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    What I do know is that Sibs is in China and the IP originated in Spain. Again please try not to draw conclusions until Ogresnet can give us some feedback.

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    hmm....i think it's more than unlikely one of the real admins did this. i think it's more plausible that someone guessed one of the passwords for an admin account, and changed all the passwords for the other admin accounts. (allowing use for the multiple admin accounts by the perpetrator). if this was the case, it wouldn't be the first time an account password was guessed by someone. (i'll just say "gaben" and you'll know what i mean if you've heard of it :p)

    well i'm sure Besim and Mithras will get to the bottom of it. kudos to Sulla and supporters for saving the forums. :happy

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    Very good work Sulla. I only hope we can recover form the devastating series of problems occuring in the last couple of days.

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