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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixiwee View Post
    Some news and behind the scenes infos:

    Since I thought that Fabius (who is obviously a Livy clone ) wrote his account on the Roman history a couple of centuries later I actually played ahead with my PI campaign. I wrote his account a week or two later after I actually played it. I wanted to stimulate the fact that his source was written 300 years later. What did I remember? What was added to the facts? How would the ongoing Roman civil war (which will be an upcoming part of EB) influence his portrayal of the "good ol days"?

    Furthermore I have already completed playing PI since I conquered most of the territory that the Romans start with in EB.

    Last but not least, I'm going on vaction on Saturday. I hope I have time to write another update before I leave, otherwise there wont be any updates till late of July. My visit to the Mediterranean sea will have certainly serve me as an influence on further updates. So stay tuned!
    Good update! Anyway, good going on the historical accuracies there too and where are ya going? (Rome? )
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    Included an area map and a nice battle... the history is still there which I am very glad to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfAlexander View Post
    EDIT: I think you should enter the XII MAARC
    I'm not quite sure what you mean with that.

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    An empire founded by war has to maintain itself by war.

    -Montesquieu


    Battle at the Reginian Forks

    The Roman Empire, by Wolfgang Schreier, Bonn 2003

    After the surprising victories of the Romans against the Sabines the Umbrian League split apart: The Umbrians accepted the status quo with the Romans, the Sabines joined the Romans as Socii, thus loosing their political independence. Only the Etruscans and the Samnites continued fighting. For Rome this was a great relief, because two enemies had been knocked out of the war. In the year 328 BC it seemed that no one could stop the Roman armies. By the end of 327 BC it seemed the other way around. What happened?
    The Etruscans sent three huge armies against the northern border of Rome. The Roman legions were still campaigning in Sabine territory, and so the Etruscans captured Caerae and Falerii, two major cities north of Rome. Now the Etruscans were close to the city itself.

    In the same year the consul Iunus Publius Philo lead a Roman legion to the south to defend the cities Capua and Neapolis. The Samnite meddix Kelis Puntiis forced the Roman Consul to battle at the Reginian forks




    Fabius - Ab Urbe Condita
    (written at about 50 BC)

    Book IX



    (3) The Roman legion was camped at the Reginian forks and it consisted half Roman soldiers and half Latin allies. I. Publius Philo is said to have panicked the moment when he heard that Kelis Puntiis was marching towards him, for Puntiis was a brilliant general who won a many victories for the Samnites. After he calmed down Philo decided to order his men to set up for battle, but rumour of Philos breakdown spoke around already and the soldiers were unsure if thire commander had the nerves to fight against Puntiis.
    On the other side Puntiis was determined to exploit the insecurity of Philo and order his man to rush onto the Romans. He advanced fast and after one hour the Roman legion saw the enemy approaching. Puntiis ordered his heavy Samnite troops to attack the right flank of the Roman legion, which consisted the Latin allies.



    The battle began during the afternoon, the numbers of troops were equal but the moral of the Romans was low. After a while of heavy fighting between the two armies the Latin troops lost many men since they faced the most experienced and well equipped Samnite troops of all.


    On the left light Latin soldiers face heavy Samnite infantry.

    Soon their will broke and they started to flee, thus breaking the formation. When the rest of the Roman soldiers saw this happening they decided too to flee from the battlefield, for Philo was not competent enough to lead his men against a soldier like Puntiis. [...]


    The Roman army in full flight.

    The Roman Empire, by Wolfgang Schreier

    The Roman army was in full flight after the defeat at the battle at the Reginian forks and for the next years the Romans would be very much on the defensive in the southern campaign again. In the north an attack on Rome itself by the Etruscans was prevented with the Battle at the Narisian fields 40 kilometres from Rome.
    The year 327 BC was a serious blow to the Romans, but it also started military reforms that made the Roman army even more flexible for warfare in the mountains. The Romans would not engage the Samnites in open battle for the next years, but they built more fortifided colonies that made it terribly difficult for the Samnites to gain lands in Campania.

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    There is no morality in war. Morality is the privilege of those judging from the distance. War is only death and destruction...
    -John Cory


    The destruction Etruscan cities

    A history of Rome, by Prof Alfred Kennard, 2002 New YorkFollowing the catastrophe of 327 BC the Roman senate choose to rethink its strategy. The Roman army would not engage the Samnites in open battle, but start raiding their country side and fleeing at the first sight of the enemy. Now the Samnites were to starve and bleed till defeat. Furthermore the Romans would build up even more defensive colonies that would hamper Samnite movement.

    For the next years the strategy seemed to work and the Roman army was reorganized. In 324 BC the Romans tried to face the Samnites in the open field once again and it came to the battle of Aufidenia. The consul Cn. Velerius Corvus led a Roman army to field against two Samnite armies.




    Battle at Aufidenia, note the hillside surroundings




    For hillside battles the Roman army adopted more light flexible troops with an emphasis on throwing spears.


    The battle was a costly and bloody one for the Romans and it turned out to be a small victory for Corvus. But furthermore it provided the long needed moral boost after the Reginian forks.



    Chavalry from Campagnia played an important role in routing enemies, but the emphasis in the Roman legion remained flexible heavy and light infantry.



    Fabius - Ab Urbe Condita
    (written at about 50 BC)

    Book X

    (9)The senate met the following week of the new year [323 BC] to discuss what should be done against the enemies of Rome. On the one side some senators argued that peace should be made with agreeing on the status quo. M. Iunius Bublucus Brutus spoke infront of his fellow colleges: “For 15 years now we have waged wars all over Italy. We have seen glorious days where the Roman army triumphed over the enemy and we have seen infamous days where the Romans were humbled deeply. I do believe that our cause is just, for Rome did not want this war, we are merely defending our land. But I also do believe that this war has brought us to the limits. There is a time to fight and let the beast within us cry for blood, but there is also a time to sooth our wounds but also those of the enemies by talking to them.”
    C. Murmius Philo spoke against it: “I do agree with all that my friend Brutus said. I think we all agree that his words are wise and kind. But you see, the difference is, that the Samnites do not see it that way. The Etruscans do neither. They want to defeat us, so that in future we do not have the power to defend our lands. I know this sounds simple, but you all have to see that there is a reason why they attacked us and have not stopped in doing so.” And so the Senate and the Consuls agreed to continue fighting and bringing the war to the lands of the enemy.


    Tarquinii in ancient time after being pillaged. The city was most likely not completley destroyed since it recovered quickly from war to become a major trading hub.

    The Roman Empire, by Wolfgang Schreier

    Starting in 323 BC the Roman army engaged the Etruscans, who were still a formal League of 12 cities. They captured and burned Tarquinii down to the ground. Fabius tells us that this is a major turning point of the war, since the city itself was a symbol to the Etruscans and the total destruction of it broke their will.

    Fabius - Ab Urbe Condita
    (written at about 50 BC)

    Book X
    (12) In war there has always been looting and killing the defeated enemy. But when the Romans entered the fateful city of Tarquinii all their anger over the Etruscans was unleashed. Every building was looted and burned to the ground; many Etruscans slaughtered and or put to slavery. After four days of death and destruction only smoke and dust was seen over the city. When the other Etruscan cities heard of the fate of Tarquinii they feared that the same fate might come to them if they continued to fight. This is the major turning point of the war, for now the Romans were feared by the Etruscans.

    Archaeological Journal, 4Q, 1995, Report on dig site F-20 in Tarquinia
    by Giorgina Micaela

    All buildings in site A/10 and A/12 have a layer of Oxides and Bicarbonates which seem to prove that several but not all building in Tarquinia were burned at around 320 BC. (Cp. Fig 23 and 24). The layer of Oxides varies strongly in site A/10 so a systematic destruction of the town as a whole is unlikely. The buildings on top of the layers date back to 300 BC. Dig site A/11 and A/14 prove that the Tarquinia was rebuilt quickly and a thriving trading community again. (Cp. Fig 25, not the different sort of brick stone in Building D-2a and D-1)


    Burial site in Tarquinia, these sites are a major source for Etruscan culture today.
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    Wow, this AAR is good.

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    Oh my, will you use Napoleonic Total War for part of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YMCA LEGO View Post
    Oh my, will you use Napoleonic Total War for part of this?
    I'm not aware what kind of mod that is, but Napoleon will most likely be a part of this AAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixiwee View Post
    I'm not aware what kind of mod that is, but Napoleon will most likely be a part of this AAR.
    Napoleonic Total War (I believe) is a battle-only R:TW mod. As such, I do not think it will serve your purposes for this AAR very well, though it is set after Empire: Total War.

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    I sure hope this isn't gone forever, this is one of my favorites this far


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    I'm back from my trip and things will be done here soon.

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    This is great, I love this AAR. Too bad that I discovered it so soon, otherwise I'd have more to read


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    Interesting, i like it.


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    Nice, still one of my favourites!


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    Update; This AAR is not dead, no worries. I have been playing EB already, things are going well in-game wise. I had an awesome unique battle which will be featured in a full lenght "battles of history" update. I already began writing the first EB update and also finished the interlude already.
    Although I admit that I was/am busy playing Baldur's gate II at the moment. That's the reason for the hold up. But the update will come.

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    Nice to get on to EB - a much stronger mod in my opinion, hehe

    The continuation of history is working very well
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    nice updates I wonder how EB will be like
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    Some news on the state of things:

    I have finally managed to install EB with ALEX.EXE and will start playing today or tomorrow. There will be a small update that connect PI with EB befor the first real EB update, though it will be influenced by real historic events.

    EB has one of the best posibilities for roleplaying and I intend to make good use of that.

    Edit; Anyone good with editing images? I'm not good at it and I would need a new sig? Anyone willing to help? As you can see, it's nothing fancy and shouldn't take long.

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