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    Default Hitler mat not have been a hack...

    At being an artist anyway.

    I found these paintings interesting, decent but not up there with Van Gough, maybe with some training he would have become a great artist and not a dictator.

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    http://www.sharenator.com/Paintings_of_Adolf_Hitler/

    Just somewhat intresting.

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    He could have become a good artist I wonder if he painted when he was in the army.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bomberboy View Post
    He could have become a good artist I wonder if he painted when he was in the army.
    Im not sure you could paint while you're under artillery fire in a mud filled trench all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godless Pickle View Post
    Im not sure you could paint while you're under artillery fire in a mud filled trench all day.
    On contraire you know, a lot of soldiers in WW1 stationed at second line defences, or in frontline trenches that didn't see action for weeks or months, or in war hospitals, etc..., used to spend their time painting or writting poetry.

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    Hm...interesting. The technique is certainly competent, but entirely rote. Like someone who picked up one of those "How to Draw" books, diligently learned its techniques, and then never strayed an iota from that point. Not an artist, but perhaps he could have been a professional illustrator, doing work for books, magazine articles, etc.

    That was posted on the site with the pictures, I kind of agree with that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraStallone View Post
    Hm...interesting. The technique is certainly competent, but entirely rote. Like someone who picked up one of those "How to Draw" books, diligently learned its techniques, and then never strayed an iota from that point. Not an artist, but perhaps he could have been a professional illustrator, doing work for books, magazine articles, etc.

    That was posted on the site with the pictures, I kind of agree with that guy.
    Ehh I disagree. His pictures on the top are certainly nothing special but the ones near the bottom are definitely good, just a bit lacking in personality and are too depressing for my liking. If he had the chance to be taught how to paint better he could have been good. Problem was with modern art being popular no one wanted that style of painting anymore, it had been done too many times before (even though those of us outside the stupid "artsy" community tend to like those paintings a million times better, but most of us aren't willing to pay that much for a painting, its just not worth it)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Godless Pickle View Post
    Im not sure you could paint while you're under artillery fire in a mud filled trench all day.
    Oh couldn't you...?



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    He seems pretty well trained as an artist to me. To be truly good as an artistic you need a degree of natural talent though, but Hitler had a natural talent of a very different kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    He seems pretty well trained as an artist to me. To be truly good as an artistic you need a degree of natural talent though, but Hitler had a natural talent of a very different kind.
    Actually Hitler was turned down for art school.. He had talent but not training...


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    Art does drive men to madness.

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    Hitler was quite the artist. A shame he could not develop this talent further.

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    I think this comment sums it up rather well: "The technique is certainly competent, but entirely rote. Like someone who picked up one of those "How to Draw" books, diligently learned its techniques, and then never strayed an iota from that point. Not an artist, but perhaps he could have been a professional illustrator, doing work for books, magazine articles, etc."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guderian's Duck View Post
    I think this comment sums it up rather well: "The technique is certainly competent, but entirely rote. Like someone who picked up one of those "How to Draw" books, diligently learned its techniques, and then never strayed an iota from that point. Not an artist, but perhaps he could have been a professional illustrator, doing work for books, magazine articles, etc."
    Someones rebuttal of that was amusing to me....

    Ya, like you can paint better. Obviously your political views and hatred for hitler lead you to discriminate against his artist ability. The fact is that Adolf Hitler was a very talented artist and you know nothing about art. I hate hitler for who he was but you cant deny that he was an excellent artist. You probably prefer art by Jackson Pollock or that type where a couple of blue squares on a black background is brilliant. You people up the art world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    Hitler was quite the artist. A shame he could not develop this talent further.
    Shame he had an abusive father who hated art or would have.

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    Default Re: Hitler mat not have been a hack...

    The paintings also have a general unhealthy psychological feeling to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    The paintings also have a general unhealthy psychological feeling to them.
    enlighten me...how so?
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    Those paintings aren't half-bad...why couldn't the guy have just stuck to being an artist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Roman View Post
    enlighten me...how so?
    There are a number of ways to psychologically discuss paintings, based on psychodynamic and graphological theories. These have good heuristic value in my experience, I consider them factually correct scientific stances, but you may find contrary opinions.

    Said this:

    1) the faces, both of animals and people: there is a remarkable fracture and internal incoherence in the expression of basic emotions between different parts of faces. This is actually a quite scientific aspect, based on the studies of Ekman we have a valid and extensive classification of facial expressions, and their distortion in perception and art can be reasonably interpreted as a psychiatric symptom.

    2) the spatial distribution of figures, in particular towards the lower right angle of the paintings. It is arguable that Hitler had problems pertaining incest, as would be confirmed by his alleged later paedophilic and incestuous behaviour with one relative in particular.

    3) the characteristics of the flowers. There is a remarkable withering in all of them, sign of possibly aggressive, anal, perverse tendencies.

    A very basic outline.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius Tosi View Post
    Is it me or do all of his paintings seem to be very meloncholy and lonely? The women seem to be sad, the dogs are mostly looking downward, the flowers all droop and sag, the streets of the city have only a few pedestrians, and the mountain paintings have a desolate island of rocks or a solitary boat.

    Seems like his paintings very accurately described what he was like at this time and hinted towards turning his loneliness into hatred.
    That is a valid intuitive outlook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    The paintings also have a general unhealthy psychological feeling to them.
    How? Just out of curiosity.

    Edit nm didnt read all the threads. I find it hard to determine psycological state from these paintings, but you are obviously more versed in than me in this field.
    Last edited by YuriVII; May 15, 2009 at 03:31 AM.

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    wow... Van Goghitler much?

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