Originally Posted by
tullyccro
I'm pretty well read on the issues that Zeitgeist raises and I just want to let you know that it's mostly ridiculous.
Perfect example, I don't know if you've ever actually worked with CEO's before but they tend to be inept people, incapable of really accomplishing anything. I highly doubt that 200 or so sitting in a room would be capable of deciding the world's fate when not a single one understands where the dry-cleaning goes, how to fire a gun, how to fix a flat tire, etc... CEO's and Industrialists/Politicians who have inherited their wealth especially have absolutely no idea how the world really functions or how to make it go one way or the other.
Ideology is really the key, and Zeitgeist speaks to that but overstates the case a bit, or at least barks up the wrong trees.
I mean, obviously everyone at this site is interested in history, which means that they tend to take a longer view of politics than the sensational 24-hour news cycle that's intended to entertain and hypnotize most people. I mean, it's not impossible. Read a few books on the history of religion, culture, government, etc... what used to be called the humanities, and you'll figure out that corporations are essentially nothing new, disparate oligarchies have always betrayed nation-states and fought with one another, it doesn't mean that rich people are Lizardoids plotting mass murder through zombification though. What I mean to say is that it's not one big malicious conspiracy, it's human nature, it's the way the chips fall. Read the Peloponnesian War and tell me that couldn't basically be today.
Anyone with a high school education and basic analytical skills can figure out that the Christ story is just an amalgamation of eastern myths of various origins, coupled with certain Hebraic insights and laws, and later bonded to Platonic and Aristotelian philosophy. It's no big secret. The Emperor Julian wrote extensively on that, and no I don't mean a forum member named Emperor Julian, I mean the Emperor of the Roman Empire, Julian the Apostate, wrote extensively on virtually every religious point made in Zeitgeist, plus much, much more.
Groups subvert governments, always have, always will, then masses destroy groups, then masses destroy themselves, then strong-men or groups destroy masses, again and again, ad infinitum, nothing is special about our case today, it's an endless loop that we will never escape, despite technology, material advancement, science, religion, etc... It's just the way it is. Aristotle talked about it 200 years ago, Machiavelli brought it up again 1000 years later, and we're having this same discussion now, except now we think we're special, as if there's some kind of imperative thing we need to do like go outside and tell everyone or whatever.... When they already mostly know the truth, they just don't want to really know the truth. People need a little romance after all, a little mystery so they have room for good faith, everything need not be enunciated or put into an equation, simple verities of the heart are typically more enjoyable than the soul-crushing realities of the human condition.
Why should I ignore the Zeitgeist documentary.
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I have not personally seen any of their videos besides the Jesus one, and even it was just laughable how many errors just I could find, let alone someone who has extensive knowledge on the subjects.
