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    A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner's experiences of life through reference to a higher power or truth.
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    Once upon a time humans did not understand the world around them or the strange creatures in it. They had no real understanding of the complex forces governing the universe or their place in the grand scheme of the cosmos. In time we invented philosophy, spirituality, and science so that we may arm ourselves with a means of answering at least some of these questions and save us from the fear of the unknown. For all of the deep questions that plague us such ‘what is the meaning of life’, because there is no answer, we have allowed ourselves to be lied to and deceived by clothed old men who had a fantasy and were kind enough to share it with anyone who would listen. Belief derives its power from faith with derives its power from ignorance which derives its power from fear. There was a great deal of fear in the beginning, and so the elites who were put in charge of religion took advantage of it and built the biggest temples, sacrificed lots of virgins, and spread the fear and ignorance through time and space, and they made sure to give us a good reason to stay in check


    This is by no means meant to be an attack on any particular religion, rather, its an attack on ALL religions. In a nuclear age where any wacko with a nuke can point at any group and call them an enemy of God no one can truly call themselves truly safe.






    The religious people cannot be challenged, their belief requires absolutely no proof and is in the U.S. defended by the Constitution.
    Throughout time forward thinking men like Galileo and Copernicus indirectly challenged religion by posing some odd questions and invariably they were encoraged to ‘shut up’.



    It is time for the non-believers to assert themselves and reassume dominion over the insane who allowed themselves to be ruled by their superstitions and emotions. The religious have the conceit to believe that because they believe in their higher power they are superior to a ‘heathen’, I suggest that someone who has beliefs based in reason and logic is superior to someone who does not. I do not want a leader who talks to God and believes in a talking snake and that the Earth is 6000 years old and that humans and dinosaurs lived together. I don’t believe that there was a Garden of Eden, or that it was in Missouri (which Mormons believe), and anyone who does is either stupid or crazy. There is hope for us non-believers (a term which was invented by the wackos and is a misnomer because it suggests that anyone who doesn’t believe in God has no legitimate right to belief anything, which is nonsense) as we constitute 15% of the population of the U.S. , a significant minority in this country larger than Blacks, Jews, or NRA members.

    No religion 15%
    African Americans 12%
    Asian 5%
    Homosexual 1.51%
    Judaism 1.2%


    We as a people have the right, power, and duty to lobby congress so that we may elect leaders who will not be basing the most important issues facing our nation (or other nations in the case of our foreign policy) on the whims of any kind of fictional creature.
    As Bill Maher said, maybe an atheist president may be less willing to send men off to be killed in a pointless war if he didn’t believe they would go to a paradise when they died.



    If you are an atheist and you are tired of being preached to, lectured to, judged, and called absent of morals by these hypocrites then take up the cause and join me. This is the atheist manifesto, we are many, we are growing, and we will not be told to ‘shut up’ or have ‘faith’ in a dated system invented by some middle eastern shepherds 6000 years ago any longer.
    "Know, O Prince, that between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis-and the rise of the Sons of Aryas, there was an Age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world like blue mantles beneath the stars"- Robert E. Howard

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    Yay, an anti-theist who's under the impression atheists are somehow united in something beyond not having a belief in gods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maraud View Post
    Yay, an anti-theist who's under the impression atheists are somehow united in something beyond not having a belief in gods.


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    Yes my brothers and sisters, join the Atheist Crusade, where we will shove our non-beliefs into the faces of all religious people!!

    How dare they hold beliefs that don't agree with ours!!

    They must forced into acknowledging that all religions are evil and the non-belief in the existence of God is the only way to live life.
    Damn to hell all Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Deists and anybody with a belief in the divine!!

    To arms!!

    Darwin lo Vult!! Darwin wills it!!







    .... you're just as bad as the religious fundamentalists that you rage against.

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    Oh yay now your going to shove your beliefs down our throats? I think someone is a bit hypocritical here!
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    I am not cramming anyones beliefs down anyone throats, believe me, as much as I might want to...
    Rather Im saying that there is either a growing minority, or at least a people who have for years been too ashamed, afraid to 'come out of the closet' about their belief in natural history and the material and not a space ghost.

    If you want to believe in a space ghost and a talking snake, go ahead, all Im saying is that we exist too, and we have the right to be represented just like every other kook. We have the right to elect atheist senators and presidents and maybe even preach now and then too.

    And maybe after we have some leaders in office who can pull their heads out of their asses we can deal with issues that truly affect us like global warming, the energy crisis, and this freaking deficit instead of things that dont mean jack to me like 'the sanctity of life, marriage, etc'
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    Atheism is unintentional ignorance. Agnosticism is intentional ignorance. Organized religion is prejudice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWizard View Post
    Atheism is unintentional ignorance. Agnosticism is intentional ignorance. Organized religion is prejudice.
    It's not ignorance to me.

    The very idea that all religions based on, to bow down to a higher power, a god or something else, is just cowardy and an insult to a human, who is born to be free!

    I don't care who created me and the world or wtf the gods would have to say. We rule ourselves and the world we live in. This is our world and we shall be the master of it!
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    Amen (ironically invoked)

    As I have said before, it takes a superior person to admit when they do or do not know something. I admit that I dont know what created the universe, luckily some brilliant people using the scientific process have supplied us with a theory.

    What is to me insulting and inherently faulty is that for anything beyond our comprehension we can invoke the power of an imagined higher being that can answer all our questions for us. To me that is willful ignorance.
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    And that is why I'm no longer religious per se, and instead Agnostic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand of Nergal View Post
    As I have said before, it takes a superior person to admit when they do or do not know something. I admit that I dont know what created the universe, luckily some brilliant people using the scientific process have supplied us with a theory.
    It's worth noting that as of yet (and possibly forever) it is just that - a theory, and one of multiple theories. It's also (as of yet) unlikely we'll ever know what caused the big-bang since it's (according to current theories) impossible to know how the singularity that caused it was formed.
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    " What is to me insulting and inherently faulty is that for anything beyond our comprehension we can invoke the power of an imagined higher being that can answer all our questions for us. To me that is willful ignorance."

    Hand of Nergal,

    It surely can only be ignorance in your own head because you have not experienced what others have? That you are insulted is nothing new because the Gospel is meant to be insulting to men. What you say is faulty however is proved to them yet not to you, experience to the former and inexperience in the latter's case.

    The very reason that Christianity has continued from the heady days of creation is because God has spoken with men and men with God, the books of the Bible being enough proof of that. That was the experience then and still is today. Your problem as with others both religious and atheists is that He has not with you all. So in your minds we are unsound even though the supernatural is our way of life.

    Ours is not a theory. It is a way of life bolstered by God and His power to overcome any obstacle put in His way. Whilst you still search for answers, conclusive proof, we have already found them and found them where you do not look. Jesus Christ did not become God, He was/is God who came in the flesh and having done what was His destiny to do, is God once more, but not in the flesh. Perhaps it is the simplicity of it all that confuses you all.

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    Atheism is unintentional ignorance.
    How so?
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    I assume he meant strong Atheism.

    His Atheism-Agnosticism-Religious portrayal is rather black and white, also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand of Nergal View Post
    As Bill Maher said, maybe an atheist president may be less willing to send men off to be killed in a pointless war if he didn’t believe they would go to a paradise when they died.
    I'm an atheist, and I'd send my legions of doom to all corners of the globe to bring the people the light of my glory.

    Seriously, you don't convert people to atheism. They gotta figure it out on their own, otherwise you are just substituting religions.
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    Oh I don't think anyone dosen't know 'you' are there...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist_Alliance

    Do you want to be ignored? Debated? Seriously make up your mind

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    PowerWizard: I disagree that atheism is unintentional ignorance, if anything it takes a superior mind to step back and admit that humanity IS NOT endowed with the wisdom to answer every profound question we may ponder. Only a pig-headed moron high on himself would have to conceit to imagine a paradise populated with virgins for their amusement and put it in a book for generations of other pig-headed morons to follow in their footsteps. To me religion is willful ignorance, and ignorance is bliss.
    I am not saying that I know everything, Im saying that I DONT, and neither do any of YOU because you do not possess any supernatural powers that I do not and god does not talk to you.

    Phier: I am not trying to convert anyone, I think that that would be too easy, people are easy to influence, religion itself is proof of that. Indoctrination typically begins when we are young, if you catch them while theyre young you can fill their heads will all kinds of crap like Krishna, flying saucers, and Santa Claus. Rather, I am merely asserting myself, and what I believe can hardly be called a religion. For one, I dont ask anyone to drink my blood, I dont require you to build a temple in praise of me, and I wont condemn you to hell if you dont agree with me. Condemning of the soul is out of my department, go on bowing in front of your clay figurines if you want the people of tommorow to laugh at you as they pass you by in evolution.

    Alakasam: State atheism? Hey , if you're gonna pidgeon-hole me into some blanket term Ill label with something: ass pirate.
    I wouldnt wanna be ignored if I made this thread and I openly invite any debate. Im just telling you right now that I wont pull any punches so you really shouldnt go there unless you think you can handle it buttercup.
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    Wonderful, I've found a nerve.

    Normally a debate requires that one is calm.

    Perhaps I should explain what State Atheism is?

    State Atheism is enforced Atheism, i.e. forcing Atheism upon people. Truly one of the worst ideas and prone to backfiring.

    Take note that I did not mention State Atheism in my post, that was in my signature...

    And please, pull no punches, I know it's hard enough (Or perhaps impossible) for an Atheist to argue against an Agnostic as it is

    To expand on this, your high and mighty statements exhibited in the OP will not work because more people have killed for Anti-Theism (Atheism, as you humour yourself) than the belief that we truly know nothing and we can't claim anything in the theological sense to be wrong.

    Feel free to assail my position, I shall delight in kicking down the ladder, so to speak

    Actually I think I shall start.

    I believe your position in particular is ignorant because you believe you can tell which religions are wrong and which aren't

    Being a fan of the edit system, I think I should warn you that future personal attacks will be reported
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alakasam View Post
    Wonderful, I've found a nerve.

    Normally a debate requires that one is calm.

    Perhaps I should explain what State Atheism is?

    State Atheism is enforced Atheism, i.e. forcing Atheism upon people. Truly one of the worst ideas and prone to backfiring.

    Take note that I did not mention State Atheism in my post, that was in my signature...

    And please, pull no punches, I know it's hard enough (Or perhaps impossible) for an Atheist to argue against an Agnostic as it is

    To expand on this, your high and mighty statements exhibited in the OP will not work because more people have killed for Anti-Theism (Atheism, as you humour yourself) than the belief that we truly know nothing and we can't claim anything in the theological sense to be wrong.

    Feel free to assail my position, I shall delight in kicking down the ladder, so to speak

    Actually I think I shall start.

    I believe your position in particular is ignorant because you believe you can tell which religions are wrong and which aren't

    Being a fan of the edit system, I think I should warn you that future personal attacks will be reported
    1)Im quite calm, Im not insane, Im not foaming at the mouth, and Im not setting myself on fire or anything equally extreme to get attention: you were the one who came to my thread

    2)I am no more 'high and mighty' than the Evangelists that swindle old ladies out of their social security checks by speaking in tongues and gyrating on national TV.

    3)As for the state atheism bit, as bad an idea and as prone to backfiring as it may be it cant possibly be worse than what weve been doing since creation which is allowing these wackos to do things like setting themselves on fires, advocating the eradication of 'other' people based on otherness. When was the last time we had a good old fashioned inquisition? But youre right, I dont necessarily condone state atheism or preach it.

    4)I will pull no punches, and its hardly impossible for me to argue [edited], see, im doing it right now. A miracle.

    5)Really? Atheists are responsible for more killing than wackos? Proof please? Id like to hear an example, because never do a bunch of anti-theists as you call us get together to fight each other when one does not have to wait long or look far to see or hear news of zealots killing/torturing/raping etc each other. Which school did you attend? Its okay though, whenevcer a bunch of zealots want to kill each other Im for it (Lets have another Crusade)

    6)We cant prove anything in the theological sense to be wrong? Uh...yes we can

    -the Earth is not the center of the universe
    -the Earth is not 6000 years old
    -Evolution is real
    -There are no talking snakes
    -People cannot live to the age of 900

    Thats all stuff that came from the big book of myths and they are things that we can prove, so again, what school did you attend?

    7) I am FAR from ignorant my friend. I ALREADY said I dont defend one religion over another. THEY ARE ALL RETARDED






    Read my OP first and then try to kick down my ladder...If you want I can break it down Barney style for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand of Nergal View Post
    1)Im quite calm, Im not insane, Im not foaming at the mouth, and Im not setting myself on fire or anything equally extreme to get attention: you were the one who came to my thread

    2)I am no more 'high and mighty' than the Evangelists that swindle old ladies out of their social security checks by speaking in tongues and gyrating on national TV.

    3)As for the state atheism bit, as bad an idea and as prone to backfiring as it may be it cant possibly be worse than what weve been doing since creation which is allowing these wackos to do things like setting themselves on fires, advocating the eradication of 'other' people based on otherness. When was the last time we had a good old fashioned inquisition? But youre right, I dont necessarily condone state atheism or preach it.

    4)I will pull no punches, and its hardly impossible for me to argue with a moron like you, see, im doing it right now. A miracle.

    5)Really? Atheists are responsible for more killing than wackos? Proof please? Id like to hear an example, because never do a bunch of anti-theists as you call us get together to fight each other when one does not have to wait long or look far to see or hear news of zealots killing/torturing/raping etc each other. Which school did you attend? Its okay though, whenevcer a bunch of zealots want to kill each other Im for it (Lets have another Crusade)

    6)We cant prove anything in the theological sense to be wrong? Uh...yes we can

    -the Earth is not the center of the universe
    -the Earth is not 6000 years old
    -Evolution is real
    -There are no talking snakes
    -People cannot live to the age of 900

    Thats all stuff that came from the big book of myths and they are things that we can prove, so again, what school did you attend?

    7) I am FAR from ignorant my friend. I ALREADY said I dont defend one religion over another. THEY ARE ALL RETARDED

    Read my OP first and then try to kick down my ladder...If you want I can break it down Barney style for you.

    "Future personal attacks will be reported"
    It was fun to warn someone before reporting them I'll give you that.

    1.) I came to your thread, I made a semi-facetious comment about how Atheists can't seem to make up their mind, it wasn't fully serious, and suddenly I am quote '' Insult me all you want, it's rather amusing. Even more amusing to report you for it

    2.) Aaah but you are more high and mighty than the average Christian, who, believe it or not, isn't swindling old ladies, and isn't brutally persecuting Atheists in their spare time

    3.) I don't recall being a part of the Spanish inquisition... Nor do I recall mentioning it (I'm not even religious in the traditional sense )

    4.) Impossible to argue with a moron like me? I thought you weren't high and mighty

    5.) Believe it or not, I'm not a zealot, I think it is entirely possible to claim no-one has ever been killed for Agnosticism, as far as I'm aware that's pretty much unique

    6.) You do know what 'in the theological sense' means, right? What school did you go to again? (It's so easy )

    7.) Fine, ignore the "and which aren't" part, I normally aim this at religious people. Point is, your OP relies on picture to generalize not just one religion, but all of them. This is why YOU are the ignorant one (Capping for emphasis is also fun )

    Below 7.) I don't think I need to respond to it, I do hope a Moderator will though

    Furthermore the Flying Spaghetti monster is a hilariously failed strawman


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