Scandinavism

[Karoliner]

Scandinavism, or Nordism, is a pan-(ethnic?)nationalist movement, both political and literary, that seeks to create close cooperation between the Scandinavian nations, or possible unification.

The Scandinavist movement began about the same time as the unification of Germany and Italy, the mid-19th century, by Danish and Swedish students in Scania. The idea of Scandinavism was to unite the three Scandinavian nations of Denmark, Norway, and Sweden, by appealing to their common history and culture, the so called "Three Brothers". The movement enjoyed a degree of support, but largely died out after the Second Schleswig War, in which Sweden refused to ally with Denmark.

The Kalmar Union could be considered the closest equivalent to a Scandinavian "nation". Norway has come under a Union with both Denmark and Sweden numerous times in history. Today, the Nordic Council is a largely dormant council that brings the Nordic nations together. With all members, with the exception of Norway and Iceland, part of the EU, and all members, except Sweden, participating in NATO, the Nordic Council is not particularly active.

The idea of Scandinavism is not seriously considered by the major parties of Nordic Nations.

Now, I brought this topic up for a reason, and not a history lesson . Are there any members here who support a common Scandinavia, or are Scandinavist? Is Scandinavism a serious possibility in the future?

[wilting]

The broader European context makes it fairly redundant for the foreseeable future. However, it may become politically useful in a regionalisation of Europe if an active effort is made to eliminate the old nation-states, but I don't see that really happening in the foreseeable future either.

[Last Roman]

They tried it before (Kalmar Union)

didnt work out so well

of course, different set of circumstances this time, and plus me not being Scandinavian, I really have no idea what the average Dane or Norwegian thinks, so I'll let them do the talking.

[Ishoss]

No. I am completely against it.

PS: Call us when the oil runs out.

[Nutsack]

I wouldn't mind a union between Sweden and Norway... Norway sure has a lot of oil!

But Denmark, nah.

[ivan_the_terrible]

A German mate of mine says Germans consider Swedes to be far too wealthy. And Swedes consider Norwegians to be far too wealthy!

[Oklop]

Norway, Sweden and Denmark should unite, revert to paganism and go Viking again. Imagine them with nuclear powered dragon ships.

[Tiberios]

Personally, for me a state union between our nations is a thing of the past. It can't be done again. But using Scandinavism as a means to further trade and culture between our nations it's good enough.

I don't think it is a issue generally. It all started because the former greater (territorial wise and as military powers) states of Denmark and Sweden (allthoug gaining Norway, they lost Finland) had been hemmed in between Russia and a rising German state. These two states doesn't really pose a military threat anymore. A Scandinavian defence union to enforce scandinavian neutrality in a possible war between the USSR and Britain and the US, was being discussed. in the end failed and Denmark and Norway joined NATO instead.

[Digbert]

Norway, Sweden and Denmark should unite, revert to paganism and go Viking again. Imagine them with nuclear powered dragon ships.

It would be the end of the world

[Oklop]

It would be the end of the world

Still it is better end than (pick one or more) nuclear holocaust, starvation, disease..... And they sure as hell would keep the population expansion in check

Here:http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail....6&IBLOCK_ID=35

Doesn't your axe hand itch sometimes, Danes? Honor this Nils Bohr, and do it the way the Vikings would. Vikings with nukes. Dream of that as you fall asleep to the sound of the foreigners you've welcomed and coddled smashing your cities -- and maybe you'll wake up sane again, to a dream of nuclear-powered longboats heading south to turn the Holy Land into a glowing wasteland, like God intended. And by God, I mean Odin, not that Palestinian smooth-talker whose armpits are stinking up on the cross.

I know it is crazy, silly and mildly offensive but funny as hell.

[husker9.2]

Norway, Sweden and Denmark should unite, revert to paganism and go Viking again. Imagine them with nuclear powered dragon ships.

I shiver at the thought lol

[0N3]

I know one thing, norwegians would never give their oil to sweden and denmark or anyone else so it will not happen... for sure!

[Holger Danske]

Greedy Norwegians. I have zero pity for you, for the sky high prices you have to pay for such simple luxuries as milk and beer... None at all...

Anyway I don't ever see a cooperation happening between us again. 3 fairly equally "strong" countries will never be able to agree, and no way I would like to see the DDK diminish because of the Norwegian and Swedish currency... I'd rather join the Euro than that.

[rusina]

all members, except Sweden, participating in NATO

Finland is not part of NATO.

[HansDuet]

nvm

[Heathen Hammer]

Well, they could get a good fleet and go on a good old viking spree in Britain and France.

[Last Roman]

Well, they could get a good fleet and go on a good old viking spree in Britain and France.

You forgot Russia.

[0N3]

You forgot Russia.

And north africa(sahara? morroco) and greece and italy=P

[Panzerbear]

You forgot Russia.

vikings did not fight Russians. they were invited by the slavs to organize and govern them .

a little later, vikings were considered as good quality mercenary infantry for Russian Knyazs, nothing more, nothing less. ugh, and the traders, of course. the main trade routes from Scandinavia to Byzantium was through Russian rivers...

[Azog 150]

And (arguably) Canada.