One big town/castle per faction at the start

**Space Voyager** · May 12, 2009, 12:52 AM

Just a suggestion... I'd love it if every faction had one settlement more populated and developed from the start. All the factions existed for ages, so I don't think that would interfere with lore in any way, and it would give players an option to use high tier units in very low quantities from the start.

Spamming them could be prevented (probably already is) by long "recharge" times and also it would ruin one's starting economy - one city can't support a lot of high tier units.

**Kiljaden** · May 12, 2009, 01:17 AM

Personally, I like it how it is. The gameplay\lore balance must be maintained.

**ISA Gunner** · May 12, 2009, 01:45 AM

There already is....Mordor has the Black Gate, Barad-dur and Minas Morgul. Gondor has Minas Tirith and to a certain extent Dol Amroth. Rohan has Helm's Deep and Edoras. Harad has Umbar. Rhun don't but thats because they were noamid clanspeople. YOU have to build them cities and make them more 'civilized'. Silvan Elves and High Elves need their capitals a bit upgraded and thats it. Same with Moria for the OOMM. Oh and Dwarves have Erebor. I think its fine the way it is.

**Space Voyager** · May 12, 2009, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by ISA Gunner

There already is....Same with Moria for the OOMM.

I don't understand what you mean by that... Moria is a low level fort at the beginning. You can only build ONE unit more than in other castles around.

@steroid: GREAT, please create this submod.

**steroid** · May 12, 2009, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Space Voyager

I don't understand what you mean by that... Moria is a low level fort at the beginning. You can only build ONE unit more than in other castles around.

@steroid: GREAT, please create this submod.

ok lol but it's not a mod just a tweak

So i modify the desc_strat like this:

- All capîtal is a full huge city complete with all recruitement possible. i don't change the other city's of all faction only the capital have been upgrade.
- All town have the road done at start (boring to every time start the game by build the road... and city without road it's a joke!!!?)
- Ill upgrade too the city's of all rebel, just make a town for each settlement with decent some build,
road wooden palissade or wooden castle with the firt barrack and farm nothing too big. the settler's are never more than 2000.
- Finish to have fight for nothing when u take a rebel settlement with nothing on it , and not settler's.

What's done the result?

First u have a real capital can protect all the other small settelment, example you can recuit Trolls or mum at the 1st turn, but beware dude, the cost of upkeep can put you on red.
The AI profite of this upgrades too, attacking you with some good troops quickly, i really enjoy this challenge.
The rebels have better settlement, and it's more intersting to conquer.

Ill upload this here in 1 hour, just the time finish my job.

**Space Voyager** · May 12, 2009, 08:28 AM

Perhaps going for fully developed settlement is too much, just like two tiers higher than the rest. To save some gameplay spice?

But hey, it is your submod. BTW, any tweak you make is a mod...

**steroid** · May 12, 2009, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Space Voyager

Perhaps going for fully developed settlement is too much, just like two tiers higher than the rest. To save some gameplay spice?

not for me because faction's have some some village really annoying, a really and strong capital give a good balance to all faction , the better is you testing it

for install
Make a save/backup of youre decr_strat.txt in \Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign

And replace by this one

Give all credits to the TATW team for this AWESOME mod!

**steroid** · May 12, 2009, 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by Space Voyager

Just a suggestion... I'd love it if every faction had one settlement more populated and developed from the start. All the factions existed for ages, so I don't think that would interfere with lore in any way, and it would give players an option to use high tier units in very low quantities from the start.

Spamming them could be prevented (probably already is) by long "recharge" times and also it would ruin one's starting economy - one city can't support a lot of high tier units.

Ill do that change for my personnal use, the capital of each faction have a very huge city with most of buildings done and all unit's can be created, it done alot of spice to the game

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Ill share my descr_strat later here, when back to home if you want.

**Muffer Nl** · May 12, 2009, 04:11 AM

Put it in the sub mods sub forum.

**Mac-Picsou** · May 12, 2009, 04:35 AM

I think that the population grow too fast and that Some city should be not able to become too big.

**Muffer Nl** · May 12, 2009, 04:38 AM

Well my population grows with 1,5% per turn.
You could probably make sure that no city can grow faster then 0,5% per turn though.

**ISA Gunner** · May 12, 2009, 05:45 AM

That 1 unit leads to 10 units over 10 turns which equates to half a stack. Not too bad. I just haven't started a campaign as OOMM, Eriador or Dale so i wouldn't know.

**Space Voyager** · May 12, 2009, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by ISA Gunner

That 1 unit leads to 10 units over 10 turns which equates to half a stack. Not too bad. I just haven't started a campaign as OOMM, Eriador or Dale so i wouldn't know.

I was talking about TYPE of unit, not number of them. Meaning that Moria only has one barracks tier more than other castles. Otherwise you can build the same NUMBER of units.