I don't understand the Augustus unit

**full_too_pale** · May 11, 2009, 10:47 PM

I trained him and he did not become emperor. My faction leader remained the faction leader. How are you supposed to use the Augustus unit exactly? His unit also does not have the same traits it shows in the unit training box. It says in the unit info he is an "AOR UNIT", what does this mean? Please help. Thanks.

**ReD_OcToBeR** · May 12, 2009, 12:13 AM

AOR = Area of Recruitment/Region, meaning certain units can only be trained in certain provinces or by certain factions and so on.

The Emperor is just solely a Role-Playing unit just to add flavour to the game. If you want him to have a chance at becoming the Faction Leader you must have him adopted into the Family. To do this send him on conquests and win a few Heroic victories and sooner or later he'll get adopted most likely. Then you can set him as Faction Heir. You'll then have to wait for the Faction Leader to die, or send him on a boat into a mass of pirates killing him.

**Tigrul** · May 12, 2009, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by ReD_OcToBeR

You'll then have to wait for the Faction Leader to die, or send him on a boat into a mass of pirates killing him.

That is really a good way of killing your own people, when applicable. I've tried to kill one of the young family members when playing as Parthia for 5 damn battles, and each time he'd escape unharmed.

(his unit almost won one of the battles, even)

**Brusilov** · May 12, 2009, 09:07 AM

If you want to get Augustus admitted to the family then I'd suggest killing off some of your existing family members (suicide attacks) and then use Augustus to lead armies to victory.

By reducing the number of family members in comparison to the number of settlements you own will increase the likelyhood to get him adopted into the family. This is the way that captains get adopted as well - mainly in mods where you can't recruit governors or generals.

**Princeps_Senatus** · May 14, 2009, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Brusilov

If you want to get Augustus admitted to the family then I'd suggest killing off some of your existing family members (suicide attacks) and then use Augustus to lead armies to victory.

By reducing the number of family members in comparison to the number of settlements you own will increase the likelyhood to get him adopted into the family. This is the way that captains get adopted as well - mainly in mods where you can't recruit governors or generals.

Does this mean that when general and governors are recruitable they dont count towards the "family members in comparison to the number of settlements"?

or are family members and generals/governors that same thing as far as the game engine is concerned?

**Brusilov** · May 14, 2009, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by Princeps_Senatus

Does this mean that when general and governors are recruitable they dont count towards the "family members in comparison to the number of settlements"?

or are family members and generals/governors that same thing as far as the game engine is concerned?

I think they don't - you get the chance in-game to adopt them into the family in the game (when it's offered). The invitation comes in a drop down box on the left hand side of the screen - I think it's one of the boxes that has to be read as well.

It's easy to check - just recruit a general and try and find them in the family tree. I'd suggest doing this at the start of a campaign as they will be easier to spot.

**Alavaria** · October 07, 2009, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Princeps_Senatus

Does this mean that when general and governors are recruitable they dont count towards the "family members in comparison to the number of settlements"?

or are family members and generals/governors that same thing as far as the game engine is concerned?

If you have a lot of recruitable generals, sometimes when you try to recruit another, it'll just give you a unit of cavalry.

Eg: As Syracuse, I was trying to get ALL of my family members into armies. I kept on recruiting generals, and then finally one turn got a unit of Greek Medium Cavalry instead.

**Danny087** · October 07, 2009, 06:26 PM

yeah, but i don't want to recruit one, i'd like to adopt a general already existing

**Tigrul** · May 14, 2009, 07:02 AM

I also have a question. Do hired governors have children which can then play the role of governors? It might be that I chose to train governors and forgot, but if it's not, I think I've noticed new governors appearing in the cities with old governors. (non-family-members)

But of course, with 100ish cities and tiger-like-patience (i.e. close to none), I might have trained them myself and forgotten about it.

**Brusilov** · May 14, 2009, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Tigrul

I also have a question. Do hired governors have children which can then play the role of governors? It might be that I chose to train governors and forgot, but if it's not, I think I've noticed new governors appearing in the cities with old governors. (non-family-members)

But of course, with 100ish cities and tiger-like-patience (i.e. close to none), I might have trained them myself and forgotten about it.

I am fairly sure that only family members have children. I know that some family members do appear in far away settlements. I don't know if that is something to do with where a family member is serving or not. As I can recruit generals and governors I tend to not worry that much about family members - I do use them as governors though when they've been suitably affected by the academies that I've built.

Hopefully one of the modders will be able to answer these points?

**dvk901** · May 14, 2009, 01:02 PM

Hired Governors and recruited Generals are not familiy members, they are 'named characters'. The difference is that they don't show up in the Family Tree Scroll. If, for example, you were pressed to the point where you had very few family memebers left, the game could adopt these.....and\or, may adopt them anyway. So they are kinda 'part of your overall factional family\ruling body', but not 'technically' part of it. Only the children of 'Family Members' will show up in the game as well.

**Brusilov** · May 14, 2009, 02:52 PM

Thanks for clarifying that dvk901.

**Princeps_Senatus** · May 14, 2009, 04:06 PM

Thanx all for answering, that clarifies a lot.

**Danny087** · October 07, 2009, 06:14 PM

hey, very interesting theme!

tried to do so, but it didn't work.
i trained a govenor-general to a 6 - star and then killed lots of family members.
i do have requests to adoption, but not to any general i've got. the adoption canditates are just fantasy names, but not one single of my generals.
so is it normal? and how can i make them adopt my governor-general?

**apple** · October 07, 2009, 06:28 PM

You need to get a heroic victory with that unit included.

**Danny087** · October 07, 2009, 07:28 PM

thats all? just one single heroic victory?

**apple** · October 07, 2009, 07:48 PM

I think so, just make sure that you are short on family members.

**Danny087** · October 08, 2009, 04:40 AM

Wow, that's really interesting, i trained up one general to a 7 star and he didn't got adopted, but when i won a heroic victory with just a captain - and he was a zero star - he immediately became a man of the hour as a second one a little bit late as well. so now i could adopt one captain and one general. cool

seems to work, only one heroic victory needed