Immortal Nazgul Version 1.2 Released

[JuL14n]

Aw man, I'm sure to mess that up.

For next update I'll make a SFX = Self installing rar-archive.
And I'll include a self installer for for vanilla 1.1 backup-files as well.
If someone wan't to help, they could send me the path to the deafult m2tw folder.
I use a custom and I don't remember the deafult folder.

[Confederate Jeb]

Thank you.

[VooDoo]

C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age

is the default
but i personally use a different hard drive location

[el Cid]

Could the elves be made immortal by giving them a trait called: Elf, which stops them from ageing?

[TheGreatNazgul]

If I installl the stopaging script over this mod, does it have any negative sideeffects?

[JuL14n]

If I installl the stopaging script over this mod, does it have any negative sideeffects?

If you overwrite campaign_script, your nazguls lose their ability to respawn.
But you will still have all nine nazguls from the beginning.

or add this to the top of campaign_script, I don't see anyway it could conflict, of course under:

script
; ---------------------
; counters

restrict_strat_radar false

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monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType sicily
and I_IsFactionAIControlled sicily

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monitor_event FactionTurnStart not FactionIsLocal
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monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_IsFactionAIControlled england

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monitor_event FactionTurnStart not FactionIsLocal
and FactionType england

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and I_IsFactionAIControlled france

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monitor_event FactionTurnStart not FactionIsLocal
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monitor_event FactionTurnStart not FactionIsLocal
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monitor_event FactionTurnStart not FactionIsLocal
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monitor_event FactionTurnStart not FactionIsLocal
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monitor_event FactionTurnStart not FactionIsLocal
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and I_IsFactionAIControlled slave

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monitor_event FactionTurnStart not FactionIsLocal
and FactionType slave

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personally I don't like the stop aging script, well.. It's good if you play as elves.

[TheGreatNazgul]

Kay, thank you. Won't use the srcipt, anyhow. I also now think it' not soo good. but thx anyway.

[papio]

Could the elves be made immortal by giving them a trait called: Elf, which stops them from ageing?

It seems possible, but the problem is that there would have to be a separate 'elf' trait for every elf in the game. For example the nazgul each have there own trait like nazgula or nazgulb. In addition to this there would need to be a way to give elves that come of age an elf trait that no other elf already has. The final problem (that I can think of at the moment) is that AFAIK there is no way to stop elves killed in battle from respawning.

[el Cid]

Yes I understand that, but maybe it could add to lifeexpectancy (plus 10 billion or so).

[JuL14n]

Look at this my friends!

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Update come later this night or maybe tomorrow.

[TheGreatNazgul]

You probably should adjust to RCRRMAY25!(though wait for update 3 or 4 so the bugs are solved)

[JuL14n]

You probably should adjust to RCRRMAY25!(though wait for update 3 or 4 so the bugs are solved)

Yes, I'm working on it. But not right now, hehe.

The bugs are in edu I think, so it won't be affecting this mod
Will also adjust the ancillary card, so that the ring is darker and more epic.
Now it's just pale, and sort of ugly.

Other nazguls got their old left, did just change their names from
Ring of barahir to Ring of power which is much more accurate.
If someone got any real names for those rings, they are free to post.

Edit: Reworked it a bit, how does it look like? Suggestions are welcome, as this is as much for you as it is for me.

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The other nazguls ring, the vanilla. But for comparing.

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Edit2: Will also make all nazguls besides witch-king a bit weaker in command, as they were no real commanders, and for the sake of balance.

[papio]

AFAIK Tolkien never mentions the names of the nine rings (or seven of the nazgul for that matter), and in trying to find out their names I've learned that it's likely that Sauron himself actually held the rings and not the nine. However, for the purposes of the game the ancillaries seem fine as they are (lore doesn't matter to me too much ).

As for balance, I too thought they were overpowered so I just lowered their numbers to that of other bodygaurd units. I might weaken them a little more if they still seem to strong.

If anyone would like a version with a few turns inbetween the respawn of nazgul just say so (and how many turns you want to wait) and I'll post one.

[JuL14n]

Aahh.. Finally I'm done.

Edit: Fixed the small bug papio meantions, haven't included the general stats yet.
As I'm not done with those after they respawn, I'm still working on
the weaker nazgul traits and descriptions for them.

When I'm done with it all I will include some options, to install after.
- For those who dislike my ancillary card.
- Better or Lesser stats.
- And papio's small script, if it is okay with him

This won't make the .zip-file much heavier cuz it mostly contain the
the same information.

Nazgul Mod for RC 28th of may.

- Witchking got his nazgul trait back. (Without losing his strat model )
- Witchking's ring got it's own ancillary card.
- All nazgul rings (except Witch-king's ring) are renamed from "Ring of barahir" to "Ring of power", for more accuracy.
- Small bug fixed.

update:

- Every Nazgul is between 20 and 30 years old from now.
- Text issue when Witch-King respawn fixed.
- Made Mordor undestroyable, this could easily be undone by clicking "no" when it asks to overwrite "descr_sm_factions". It's to get around the "orcs running around with Witch-Kings strategic model after his death"-issue. Included readme for this.

update:

- Vanilla Third Age 1.1 added

update:

- Visual enhancement v0.4 added

update:
- Nazgul mod RC31 http://www.twcenter.net/forums.... Thanks to papio.

Remember you are allways free to report bugs and things need to be changed, it's called freedom of speech

[VooDoo]

that sounds good to decrease there command ranking, but would be nice to see them get a boost in loyalty and obedience, aswell as a default age reduction (not that i cant do all that myself, but would fit in better with the aim of the mod)

[JuL14n]

that sounds good to decrease there command ranking, but would be nice to see them get a boost in loyalty and obedience, aswell as a default age reduction (not that i cant do all that myself, but would fit in better with the aim of the mod)

Yes, I'm still working on this. Soon they will respawn both weaker in command and weaker on the battlefield(decrease of hitpoints).
And Witchking will not get the trait factionleader after respawning but he will still have his own stratmodel.
I had a small bug when I tested it first time. Witchking adopts many orc generals in the beginning,
and when he dies, one of those orcs are crowned to faction leader (and got his stratmodel), this could simply be fixed by rasing authority to the other nazguls so one of them gets the trait factionleader instead.
And then again when Witchking respawn, he will have more authority then anybody else, and
get his trait back as soon as the trait holder dies.

This is my latest work when it comes to stats. Added some fear, removed some command, and a small
touch on obedience and loyalty.

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[papio]

Noticed a small bug where the nazgul in mirkwood was getting the ring of barahir and ring of power ancillary. Caused by a typo and fixed by changing ring_nazgul ancillary in descr_strat to ring_nazguld.

[papio]

When I'm done with it all I will include some options, to install after.
- Fix for Vanilla 1.1
- For those who dislike my ancillary card.
- Better or Lesser stats.
- And papio's small script, if it is okay with him

I would certainly allow you to use the script, however, it has for reasons I'm not sure of stopped working. I am working on a fix, but since I have no idea why it or any of the many variations I have tried are not working it could be a while.

Edit: If anyone has an idea for why this isn't working please say so

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;########################## IMMORTAL NAZGULS ##############################
declare_counter nazgul
declare_counter nazgula
declare_counter nazgulb
declare_counter nazgulc
declare_counter nazguld
declare_counter nazgule
declare_counter nazgulf
declare_counter nazgulg
declare_counter nazgulh
declare_counter nazguli
set_counter nazgula 0
set_counter nazgulb 0
set_counter nazgulc 0
set_counter nazguld 0
set_counter nazgule 0
set_counter nazgulf 0
set_counter nazgulg 0
set_counter nazgulh 0
set_counter nazguli 0



monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england

if not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgula
inc_counter nazgula 1
end_if

if I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and I_CompareCounter nazgula >= 5

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgula, named character, age 35, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul1, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingOne 1, factionleader 1, Witchking 1, LoyaltyStarter 3, GoodCommander 3, BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1, CaptorDread 1, GoodAttacker 1, NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end

set_counter nazgula 0
set_counter nazgul 1
end_if
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england

if not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgulb
inc_counter nazgulb 1
end_if

if I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and I_CompareCounter nazgulb >= 5

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgulb, named character, age 32, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul2, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingTwo 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end

set_counter nazgulb 0
set_counter nazgul 1
end_if
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england


if not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgulc
inc_counter nazgulc 1
end_if

if I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and I_CompareCounter nazgulc >= 5

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgulc, named character, age 30, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul4, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingThree 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3, GoodCommander 2, BattleScarred 3, StrategyDread 1, GoodAttacker 1, NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end

set_counter nazgulc 0
set_counter nazgul 1
end_if
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england

if I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
inc_counter nazguld 1
end_if

if I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and I_CompareCounter nazguld >= 5

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazguld, named character, age 42, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul3, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits Nazgul 1, RingFour 1, LoyaltyStarter 3, GoodCommander 3, BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1, CaptorDread 1, GoodAttacker 1, NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end

set_counter nazguld 0
set_counter nazgul 1
end_if
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england

if not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgule
inc_counter nazgule 1
end_if

if I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and I_CompareCounter nazgule >= 5

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgule, named character, age 30, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul5, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingFive 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 1, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end

set_counter nazgule 0
set_counter nazgul 1
end_if
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england

if not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgulf
inc_counter nazgulf 1
end_if

if I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and I_CompareCounter nazgulf >= 5

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgulf, named character, age 34, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul6, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingSix 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end

set_counter nazgulf 0
set_counter nazgul 1
end_if
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england

if not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgulg
inc_counter nazgulg 1
end_if

if I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and I_CompareCounter nazgulg >= 5

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgulg, named character, age 38, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul7, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingSeven 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 2 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end

set_counter nazgulg 0
set_counter nazgul 1
end_if
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england

if not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgulh
inc_counter nazgulh 1
end_if

if I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and I_CompareCounter nazgulh >= 5

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgulh, named character, age 42, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul8, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingEight 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end

set_counter nazgulh 0
set_counter nazgul 1
end_if
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england

if not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazguli
inc_counter nazguli 1
end_if

if I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and I_CompareCounter nazguli >= 5

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazguli, named character, age 48, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul9, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingNine 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end

set_counter nazguli 0
set_counter nazgul 1
end_if
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_LocalFaction england
and I_CompareCounter nazgul = 1
historic_event nazgul
set_counter nazgul 0
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

[Cannor]

Hi,

I would like to use your mod and the unique building mod together.
The problem is that you both have modified the descr_strat in the imperial campaing folder.
Maybe you could tell me what you have modified there so that I could just copy this over to the one of the unique building mod.

thanks in advance

best regards

[papio]

All that this mod changes in the descr_strat file is the mordor characters from orcs to nazgul. However if you're using RC the newest version already includes the unique building mod, in which case see Jul14n's earlier post for the newest RC compatible version. Otherwise a real easy way merge mods is with this: http://winmerge.org/