Immortal Nazgul Version 1.2 Released

[Falco]

I followed your instructions and installed the mod so it would be compatible with other mods (did this twice), but when I try to start a new campaign, the game sends me back to the main screen. Any idea how to fix this?

[ISA Gunner]

It works great, thanks. BUT. I have an issue. The Nazgul that starts in the Black Gate escorted an army to Malgalad and conquered it. He was then accused of being a heretic and burnt at the stake by one of Saurons servents. So he re-appeared outside Barad-dur. Great. So i moved him back to the Black Gate. 3 turns later he was again executed for being a heretic but this time he did not re-appear. What's up?

[Kiljaden]

I followed your instructions and installed the mod so it would be compatible with other mods (did this twice), but when I try to start a new campaign, the game sends me back to the main screen. Any idea how to fix this?

Did you back up the files you modded? If not, uninstall and reinstall the Third Age mod.

Chances are that you added a space or line somewhere you weren't supposed to. Small things like that wub everything up for some reason.

It works great, thanks. BUT. I have an issue. The Nazgul that starts in the Black Gate escorted an army to Malgalad and conquered it. He was then accused of being a heretic and burnt at the stake by one of Saurons servents. So he re-appeared outside Barad-dur. Great. So i moved him back to the Black Gate. 3 turns later he was again executed for being a heretic but this time he did not re-appear. What's up?

I'm curious, did you try continuing the game for a couple turns before coming to us?

[ISA Gunner]

Yes. It's been like 20 turns Kiljaden and he still hasn't turned up.

[Vifarc]

would it be possible to modify this system to accommodate Elvish immortality? The difference here is that we want Elvish generals to re-spawn only if they die of old age, not if they are killed in battle / assassinated. I have no idea if the game is capable of telling the difference between how a general dies, or if that variable can be used in determining whether or not they are resurrected. However, if both of these things can be done, then we may have a viable way to keep elvish generals alive indefinitely.

Good idea. We could imagine, when elves die of old in the game, they just wanted to retire to the sea as all elves want, but finally decide back to still stay to finish Sauron. The problem is Elves will have stacks of generals!

[kai]

ISA Gunner - Thats odd. Do you know if after he respawns whether he has a ring as an ancillary?

[Black_ice_Spain]

great mod, will install when i finish my campaign, btw, would be great if this could be done to good factions too

vifarc, elves shudnt have stacks of generals, i mean, elves can die in battle . it could be sumthing like... "if your general has 100years age and his "commander stars" are under.. 6, then he gets bored and sails to the "new world" .

Altho idk if possible on scripting xD.

[Freeque]

Unfortunately, mod with immortal elrond doesn't work Its strange because Nazguls alone are working.

[kai]

odd. I tested it and everything

I'll have a look. I am quite busy at the moment but I will try and sort it out for ya.

[Freeque]

Thank you

[JuL14n]

Unfortunately, mod with immortal elrond doesn't work Its strange because Nazguls alone are working.

Did you start a new game?

[TheGreatNazgul]

Umm.. does anyone else have trouble instaling this over RC12?
The mod would only conflict in descr. strat and campaign script, so i used your "method2 from above, but this does not work. I always get sent back to menu. and I really made no space error or sth. like that. I just copied pasted. ??????????????????ß

[kai]

It sounds to me like you have messed up doing the descr_strat. Check your pm's I sent you the files. I use it with RC myself.

[JuL14n]

It sounds to me like you have messed up doing the descr_strat. Check your pm's I sent you the files. I use it with RC myself.

Maybe you should upload it here too?
Well I don't use RC but there are many people out there that use it.
So a compatibilty patch would not be wrong for people unexperienced in editing of text-files (hehe ).

[kai]

OK then. These should work with RC.
Attachment 41674
Attachment 41673

[TheGreatNazgul]

Great THXXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!!!! +rep

[Aye]

That's better than dying. Actually, Nazgul "died" pretty often and "respawned" in Mordor. (after that bruinen flood for example)

The only problem is that they can't be killed in battle forever, like the withcking was.

^ And no man is able to kill witch king, remember? Means as long as there are no Rohhirim axe maidens, no nazgul killers :-) Well perhaps, but not witchking killers atleast.

Ah and good, something well thought out for your first mod.

[Hengest]

you mean shieldmaidens
problem with this is that it doesn't really solve any lore-realism problems, such as longevity. I don't think this mod is for me

[JuL14n]

One of my nazgûls died, and respawned as he should do.
But he lost the ring that made him able to respawn.

So I took a look at the respawning-script and found this.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The first listed
monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgulb

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgulb, named character, age 32, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul2, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits >?< Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_counter nazgul 1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor



Witchking

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgula

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgula, named character, age 35, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul1, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingOne 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3, GoodCommander 3, BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1, CaptorDread 1, GoodAttacker 1, NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_counter nazgul 1
terminate_monitor

end_monitor

The 6 first listed doesn't respawn a second time, while the 3 last do.

I will try to fix it, to spare you from some writing work

here

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

;########################## IMMORTAL NAZGULS ##############################
declare_counter nazgul

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgulb

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgulb, named character, age 32, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul2, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingTwo 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_counter nazgul 1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgule

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgule, named character, age 30, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul5, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingFive 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 1, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_counter nazgul 1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgulf

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgulf, named character, age 34, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul6, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingSix 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_counter nazgul 1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgulg

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgulg, named character, age 38, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul7, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingSeven 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 2 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_counter nazgul 1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgulh

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgulh, named character, age 42, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul8, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingEight 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_counter nazgul 1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazguli

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazguli, named character, age 48, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul9, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingNine 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3 , GoodCommander 3 , BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1 , CaptorDread 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_counter nazgul 1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor


monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgula

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgula, named character, age 35, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul1, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingOne 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3, GoodCommander 3, BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1, CaptorDread 1, GoodAttacker 1, NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_counter nazgul 1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor


monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazgulc

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazgulc, named character, age 30, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul4, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits RingThree 1, Nazgul 1, LoyaltyStarter 3, GoodCommander 2, BattleScarred 3, StrategyDread 1, GoodAttacker 1, NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_counter nazgul 1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor


monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_SettlementOwner Gorgoroth = england
and not I_WorldwideAncillaryExists ring_nazguld

spawn_army
faction england
character Nazguld, named character, age 42, x 290, y 138, portrait nazgul3, battle_model mounted_nazgul
traits Nazgul 1, RingFour 1, LoyaltyStarter 3, GoodCommander 3, BattleScarred 2, BattleDread 1, CaptorDread 1, GoodAttacker 1, NightBattleCapable 1
unit Black Numenorians exp 3 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0
end
set_counter nazgul 1
terminate_monitor
end_monitor

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType england
and I_LocalFaction england
and I_CompareCounter nazgul = 1
historic_event nazgul
set_counter nazgul 0
end_monitor

[kai]

Thanks for pointing this out. I have updated the first post.
Here is a quick fix if you don't want to re-download everything:Attachment 41710