Snaga over powerd?

**Merry** · May 11, 2009, 05:23 AM

I have been playing as the dwarfs i get a bit lazy auto a battle with 1000 of my best troops aganist about 800 snaga, and the snaga destroy them! its werid is this a glitch with my game

**ISA Gunner** · May 11, 2009, 05:40 AM

Auto resolve sucks. Just fight the battles yourself and you will see that they are not overpowered.

**Withwnar** · May 11, 2009, 05:42 AM

Yeah, it's not Snaga specifically, it's the unit size. There's a thread on auto-resolve issues.

autoresolve difficulty

**zowrath** · May 11, 2009, 05:56 AM

I find Snaga's weak imho. I can ride down a whole bunch of them with just a couple of generals real fast.

**Seleukos_I.** · May 11, 2009, 06:39 AM

well they are just slaves and the weakest units of the OoMM which have all around not the strongest units (beside trolls) so they should be weak

**Ham the Pharoah** · May 11, 2009, 06:35 AM

Snaga are pretty weak actually. Fought a battle with 300 horsemen from Rohan against 1500 Snaga, actually won...

**Humakty** · May 11, 2009, 06:41 AM

Snaga javelineers are worthless scum, at least the archers have the range to actually kill something before hand to hand reaches them. Moment when they disappear....

**jản** · May 11, 2009, 06:42 AM

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snaga skirmishers are really quite tenacious. but i like that.
they are good and alrounding shocktroops. i just play rohan
and they are a great opponent in the beginning.

although the have more power, stamina and strenght like
humans they are really easy to beat with frighten them the
crap out of their dandruffy leather skin and make them rout.
flanking with cavalry and shocktroops is really effective for that.

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**Ham the Pharoah** · May 11, 2009, 06:51 AM

I don't even flank with cavalry, one full on cavalry charge at the Snaga skirmishers is quite enough to rout the whole Isengard/OotMM army. We're talking 600 horseman charges

Now, if the orc generals had enough sense to actually put the Uruk-Hai troops in front and the Snaga at the back to be able to throw javelins, it wouldn't be this easy.

**zowrath** · May 11, 2009, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by Ham the Pharoah

I don't even flank with cavalry, one full on cavalry charge at the Snaga skirmishers is quite enough to rout the whole Isengard/OotMM army. We're talking 600 horseman charges

Now, if the orc generals had enough sense to actually put the Uruk-Hai troops in front and the Snaga at the back to be able to throw javelins, it wouldn't be this easy.

Hmm, but this could be "fixed" with adjustments to formations, yes?

**Ham the Pharoah** · May 11, 2009, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by zowrath

Hmm, but this could be "fixed" with adjustments to formations, yes?

Yes, it could. The thing about flanking the enemy in this mod is that they don't just sit tight waiting for you to flank, once your cavalry gets close to them they send out units to assault the cavalry so you'd have to do a lot of babysitting to finally get your units behind the enemy to charge light units.

**zowrath** · May 11, 2009, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Ham the Pharoah

Yes, it could. The thing about flanking the enemy in this mod is that they don't just sit tight waiting for you to flank, once your cavalry gets close to them they send out units to assault the cavalry so you'd have to do a lot of babysitting to finally get your units behind the enemy to charge light units.

Then you must be playing a completely different mod than me

Yesterday I took Elrond and Glorfindel out of formation and just outflanked and charged the enemy in the rear utterly destroying them. While I was getting into position they enemy just walked calmly forward towards my infantry and archers.

Perhaps general's bodyguards are not recognized as cavalry? That would be strange though.

**Humakty** · May 11, 2009, 06:57 AM

Oh guys, I have yet to see an army composed entirely of snagas, for me it's all uruks and goblin infantry with some snaga support !

**August** · May 11, 2009, 08:32 AM

Well... I find it interesting that Uruk Hai Pikes have the same level of protection as a butt naked Snaga. Anyone else finds that amusing, or is it just me?

**DisgruntledGoat** · May 11, 2009, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by August

Well... I find it interesting that Uruk Hai Pikes have the same level of protection as a butt naked Snaga. Anyone else finds that amusing, or is it just me?

Its because they have pikes. To give them higher stats would be the equivalent of turning every man in the unit into superman.

**JonSnow** · May 11, 2009, 08:52 AM

Use RC it fixes that among thousands of other things

**Muffer Nl** · May 11, 2009, 08:56 AM

I find it very interesting that when I tell my cavalry to attack the archers they run around the arrchers head long into the enemy pikes...

**MadTiest** · May 11, 2009, 09:04 AM

In vanilla TATW Snaga have the Armor Piercing stat, which is why they kick dwarven ass. You should either remove it yourself, or wait for a patch or the RC submod to fix it.

**Humakty** · May 11, 2009, 09:33 AM

Oh boy, getting kicked by snagas ! They're just subpar javelineers ! How could you let us dwarves fall that low !
As for pikes, just compare with basic game, you'll probably perceive some form of coherence. Or...