Abrahamanic Religions

[The Alchemist]

Was simply curious as to how many people on this forum follow one of the Abrahamanic religions. In case you don't know, they are Islam, Judaism, and Christianity.

[VALIS]

Abrahamanic?

[Tiberius Tosi]

Yes, and I am also a follower of Reaganominics .

[mrcrusty]

OP, you added an extra 'an'....

Abrahamanic - A rare symptom of Bipolar disorder in which the person has elevated mood swings as a result of being Muslim, Christian or Jewish.

[Arch-hereticK]

Abrahamanic?? He's certainly manic.

[basics]

When God gave to Abraham and his seed the promises, the word seed is in the singular, one seed, that one promised from the fall of man is reference to the Lord Jesus Christ and through whom the children of God, the elect, come. There were never any other religions included.

For sure Abraham was to be the father of many nations because after the promises were delivered and Sarah had died he fathered more children who like Ishmael became as they bred other nations. But what their religion was had nothing whatsoever to do with the promises given whilst Sarah was still alive.

Christianity as it is called is the continuation of the promises, Islam isn't and never was.

[GuineaPig]

Abrahamaniacs? Sounds like an animated children's Christian show.

[Enemy of the State]

All of them are authoritarian in nature. I refuse to worship a sadistic god.

[Fiyenyaa]

Christianity as it is called is the continuation of the promises, Islam isn't and never was.

Devils advocate: Islam is the full and undiluted word of God, whilst Christianity and Judaism are merely incomplete, watered down versions of the word.

[mrcrusty]

Devils advocate: Islam is the full and undiluted word of God, whilst Christianity and Judaism are merely incomplete, watered down versions of the word.

Your opinions are invalid. Begone, servant of Satan.

[basics]

" Devils advocate: Islam is the full and undiluted word of God, whilst Christianity and Judaism are merely incomplete, watered down versions of the word."

Fiyenyaa,

On what authority? The word of an angel who already made his statement to Zecharias, Elizabeth, Mary and Joseph among others. Islam has no Spiritual nor legal authority at all and if the Koran and it's follow-ups is an example of that which is not diluted then God for four thousand years has led everyone but Mohammed on a wild goose chase and we know that's not true.

But then it is not unusual for a religion to try to steal the promises given to Israel, Islam being like the Mormons using the name of an angel for that purpose. Perhaps you don't know but Paul claims that doing so is another gospel that is worthless and carries a curse. Now isn't it funny that Jesus Christ told the disciples what to preach that men might receive salvation and all Islam has to offer is sweat all the days of your life and of course the unprovable virgins.

[Ummon]

Abrahamanic is a religion without brah(a)man?

[Heathen Hammer]

Christianity, Islam and Judaism are equally worthless to me.
Religion is opium for the people. Religion is a sort of spiritual booze, in which the slaves of capital drown their human image, their demand for a life more or less worthy of man.
Vladimir Lenin

[Bovril]

Christianity, Islam and Judaism are equally worthless to me.
Religion is opium for the people. Religion is a sort of spiritual booze, in which the slaves of capital drown their human image, their demand for a life more or less worthy of man.
Vladimir Lenin

Lenin perverted Marx's though in many ways, and this is a good example. Compare that quote with this:

"Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man—state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo."


When I think about how Marx has been treated by history the phrase 'pearls before swine' often comes to me. Contrary to myth Marx never actually stated "I am not a Marxist" (he said "if that is Marxism then..."), but if he lived now, no doubt he would.

[Ummon]

Lenin perverted Marx's though in many ways, and this is a good example. Compare that quote with this:

"Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man—state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo."


When I think about how Marx has been treated by history the phrase 'pearls before swine' often comes to me. Contrary to myth Marx never actually stated "I am not a Marxist" (he said "if that is Marxism then..."), but if he lived now, no doubt he would.

Marx is the perfect example of how a very intelligent man having many very intelligent ideas can ultimately misunderstand the world (because of an excess of reliance on thought alone).

[Bovril]

Marx is the perfect example of how a very intelligent man having many very intelligent ideas can ultimately misunderstand the world (because of an excess of reliance on thought alone).

Whilst I won't fully disagree, it's worth bearing in mind that every intelligent person is a good example of an intelligent person who misunderstands the world at least to some extent. We can't get outside of ourselves and assess exactly how 'wrong' Marx was, but we can say that on the whole his insights had a great deal of intellectual prescience, even if they are a long way from representing the whole of things. I actually think his views on religion can be extremely useful to religious people trying to understand religion. In many ways organised religion is "the soul of a souless world", regardless of it's actual veracity.

[Ummon]

For someone whose mummy was shown to the public as a relic, certainly Lenin had interesting opinions.

[Bovril]

basics,
Islam does not accept the authority of Jewish or Christian scripture, so it is womewhat vain to use such scripture to criticise it. It makes sense from within your own framework, but is not going to convince anyone who does not share it. In other words, you're only preaching effectively to the choir.

[Iron Juggernaut]

I DID follow Islam when I was younger.

[Confederate Jeb]

I'm a Christian.