Are you prepared to die for your belief ?

[webMaster412160]

Some people would do anything for there belief including die,attack vs westerns,sacrifice some one,
anb more ...
Know I ask you deer members of TWC are you prepared to die for your religion ?

[Stavroforos]

I'm more ready to die for my country than I am for my religion, but if the cause was just, then sure.

[Exarch]

i am prepared to live for my beliefs
i am prepared to fight for me beliefs

as for the dying, i'm prepared to make others die for trying to force me to believe their religion

[Arch-hereticK]

A belief not worth dying for is a belief not worth having.

[Pious Agnost]

Dying for the belief that I don't really know anything and can't really know anything... Sounds kind of redundant.

I'll pass.

[Dr. Croccer]

If it's under threat, then yes.

[Denny Crane!]

I would never die for my beliefs. If someone has a gun to my head and asks me to renounce them I'd bow down to any cloven hoofed grass eating god you care to name.

You only get one life then nothing, so why waste it on loyalties to abstract concepts.

[Fishy]

I would never die for my beliefs. If someone has a gun to my head and asks me to renounce them I'd bow down to any cloven hoofed grass eating god you care to name.

You only get one life then nothing, so why waste it on loyalties to abstract concepts.

In a situation like that I wouldn't know what I would do.

If your belief system is under threat however? If it's being destroyed left and right then the situation would likely be much different and there would be a far greater reason to go out and fight. Death is a possibility in a situation like that. And if something like that would happen then I would be willing to fight and possibly die for it.

Doesn't seem like my life would be worht living otherwise. (This doesn't limit itself to religion)

[Denny Crane!]

In a situation like that I wouldn't know what I would do.

If your belief system is under threat however? If it's being destroyed left and right then the situation would likely be much different and there would be a far greater reason to go out and fight. Death is a possibility in a situation like that. And if something like that would happen then I would be willing to fight and possibly die for it.

Doesn't seem like my life would be worht living otherwise. (This doesn't limit itself to religion)

err nope. If I'm dead then nothing else matters so why risk death? If I'm dead my belief system in tact or not makes no difference.

[Fishy]

err nope. If I'm dead then nothing else matters so why risk death? If I'm dead my belief system in tact or not makes no difference.

What would the point in living be if the things you hold dear are suddenly gone? This doesn't necessarily limit itself to religion. But what would the point be in living in a society where you can't even do or see the things you want? It would make life quite useless, in my opinion it would then be better to fight for it. And if I die in the mean time then so be it, not like I would really notice in the first place. So if I lose then I'm dead and I wouldn't notice, but if I win then I could go back to living the life I want.

[Каие]

I would never die for my beliefs. If someone has a gun to my head and asks me to renounce them I'd bow down to any cloven hoofed grass eating god you care to name.

You only get one life then nothing, so why waste it on loyalties to abstract concepts.

If you only get one life and then nothing, then nothing at all matters, you might as well go, as it doesn't matter either way.

[Old_Scratch]

I would fight for the freedom of belief, but I wouldn't go so far as to die for my beliefs. It's pretty pointless since I believe that there's no afterlife. If it's either I worship some random god, or get killed, then I'll worship the random god. I'd just go through the motions in order not to get killed.

[Denny Crane!]

If you only get one life and then nothing, then nothing at all matters, you might as well go, as it doesn't matter either way.

Interesting. So every atheist must be a nihilist?

[Каие]

Interesting. So every atheist must be a nihilist?

Not sure how you got that from what I said, but sure, OK.

I always love this argument, because I feel the exact opposite. Because I only get one life, I'm motivated to make the best out of it. This life isn't a pit stop on the way to eternal bliss, it's the only chance I have to make a difference.

I'm glad for you.

No. it's the complete opposite, if this is the only one life we get, make the most out of it and enjoy. If you have eternal paradise after this life, why bother at all with these measly 80 or so years? Spend your time in a windowless room locked from the outside with just you and a Bible(or Koran in your case) and pray. Because you will have an infinite amount of memories and actions it makes this life utterly redundant and pointless. Don't go to school, don't attempt relationshisp outside of a relationship with God, don't get a job, don't do anything.

That's of course only accurate if, as most militant anti-religionists seem to think, religion preached the point to life was to be locked in a room and reciting a book. But in actual fact, no, you know full well what religions ask of their members and followers, and it is not limited to making one's life pointless, in fact that is the opposite of religious duty. But don't let that stop any future prejudiced statements you may make about religion, I mean we get it, you hate religion, but there is no need to abandon simple logic and intellectual thought when approaching the topic of religious observation.

The belief in an eternal afterlife makes this life pointless. Believing that nothing happens after death makes this life far far more important. So you have it completley backwards.

Opinion. Nothing more, and nothing less than your blatant opinion.

[VALIS]

That's of course only accurate if, as most militant anti-religionists seem to think, religion preached the point to life was to be locked in a room and reciting a book. But in actual fact, no, you know full well what religions ask of their members and followers, and it is not limited to making one's life pointless, in fact that is the opposite of religious duty. But don't let that stop any future prejudiced statements you may make about religion, I mean we get it, you hate religion, but there is no need to abandon simple logic and intellectual thought when approaching the topic of religious observation.

The only thing asked of you is Shahadah, Salat, Zakat, Sawm and Hajj. But thats it. Just do that, don't do anything else in life.
And no, what I said makes complete sense in regards to finite actions in this life. If you are going to experience an infinite amount of moments and situations in a paradise, it makes what ever goes on in this life irrelavent, as the finite amount of events in this life actually aren't finite, they are just extended ad infinitum into another state of existence.

So it renders this life a mere vapour not worth bothering about. The only thing necessary is the attempt to gain access to said paradise via religious duties.

[GuineaPig]

If you only get one life and then nothing, then nothing at all matters, you might as well go, as it doesn't matter either way.

I always love this argument, because I feel the exact opposite. Because I only get one life, I'm motivated to make the best out of it. This life isn't a pit stop on the way to eternal bliss, it's the only chance I have to make a difference.

As for the OP question, it would seriously matter. For my lack of religious belief? Hell no. For something more substantial... maybe. Depend on the issue.

[VALIS]

If you only get one life and then nothing, then nothing at all matters, you might as well go, as it doesn't matter either way.

No. it's the complete opposite, if this is the only one life we get, make the most out of it and enjoy. If you have eternal paradise after this life, why bother at all with these measly 80 or so years? Spend your time in a windowless room locked from the outside with just you and a Bible(or Koran in your case) and pray. Because you will have an infinite amount of memories and actions it makes this life utterly redundant and pointless. Don't go to school, don't attempt relationshisp outside of a relationship with God, don't get a job, don't do anything.

The belief in an eternal afterlife makes this life pointless. Believing that nothing happens after death makes this life far far more important. So you have it completley backwards.

Anyway, I would die for my beliefs in freedom and liberty.
If a totalitarian genocidal dictatorship was trying to either attack Britain or take it over from the inside and I was called to take up arms I would do so.

[Tankbuster]

If all I had to do was convert to a particular kind of religion to save my own life, I'd do it in a heartbeat! I'm not stupid. If lying can save my life, that's what I'll be doing.

But if a group of people tried to, say, turn my country into a religious theocracy and start limiting freedom of speech, then I would fight for that. Some things are worth fighting for.

[Dunecat]

Why would you not die for your belief if you don't believe in an afterlife? Is that not when such a statement matters?

[Old_Scratch]

Why would you not die for your belief if you don't believe in an afterlife? Is that not when such a statement matters?

What point would there be to dying for unbelief? It's not like worshiping some random god is going to hurt me, quite the contrary. I will be able to live. Also, I'm pretty fond of existence at the moment. We're all going to die eventually, why throw your life away needlessly just to make a statement? I don't really understand what you're asking in the second sentence.