Rings of Power - Seven and Nine

[Ponti]

Maybe it will be a good solution to put 9 rings of Power for Nazgul and One from Seven rings to Dwarfs.

As I remember Tolkien wrote that the Rings could not make Dwarves invisible, turn them into wraiths, dominate their wills, or extend their lives due to essential traits of their kind. This greatly frustrated Sauron's plans, but through the Rings he was still able to influence them to anger and greed.At the time of The Lord of the Rings, four of the Seven had been "consumed" by dragons, one was believed lost in Moria when Thrór was killed by Azog (one reason Balin returned to the ancient dwarf realm) and the remaining two were known to be recaptured by Sauron.

So one Dwarf ring for Dwarf King and 9 for Nazgul as a items will be a good idea.

[Krechet(SiCh)]

9 rings allready in game but there are small bug in script so every Nazgul take Ring of Barahir, not Ring of Men. And we plan to add Dwrven rings cause most probablty 3 of 7 were lost but not destroyed

[Ponti]

Do u have some Ideas about effect of those rings Krechet?

[Hallow]

9 rings allready in game but there are small bug in script so every Nazgul take Ring of Barahir, not Ring of Men. And we plan to add Dwrven rings cause most probablty 3 of 7 were lost but not destroyed

Yeh I thought the nazguls all having the ring of Barahir being funny

[HUtH]

This is so wrong that Nazguls have Rings of Barahir. Firstly that was only one Ring of Barahir. Secondly the ring is heirloom of House of Isildur, and it is passed on succeeding Dunedain chieftains. Thirdly Aragorn got the ring and gave it to Arwen, so they became betrothed.
So why do Nazguls have this ring?

Seven rings - At the period ofthe mod, there isn't any ring in the hands of Dwarves. 4 rings were destroyed by dragons, 3 another were gained by Sauron. Thror gave his ring to Thrain, and Thrain was captured by orcs, so Sauron got the ring

[Jimbe]

This is so wrong that Nazguls have Rings of Barahir. Firstly that was only one Ring of Barahir. Secondly the ring is heirloom of House of Isildur, and it is passed on succeeding Dunedain chieftains. Thirdly Aragorn got the ring and gave it to Arwen, so they became betrothed.
So why do Nazguls have this ring?

Seven rings - At the period ofthe mod, there isn't any ring in the hands of Dwarves. 4 rings were destroyed by dragons, 3 another were gained by Sauron. Thror gave his ring to Thrain, and Thrain was captured by orcs, so Sauron got the ring

The nazgul all having a Ring of Barahir is a bug

[Lordinquisitor]

Or maybe Aragorn wanted to try something new and wed those nazgul.

[Drathmar]

9 rings allready in game but there are small bug in script so every Nazgul take Ring of Barahir, not Ring of Men. And we plan to add Dwrven rings cause most probablty 3 of 7 were lost but not destroyed

How would you go about having 2 of them gotten from Sauron though since he has 2 of them?

And the last one I could see though, if like a dwarf captures moria and stay there he could get it but the other two I don't see how you would go about it.

Im just curious, not bashing or anything.

[The Sixth Wizard]

3 Rings are in the hands of the Elves and are already in-game. The One is in game, but I think it should be removed personally. The Seven didn't show up in last 50 years of the Third Age and the Nine are already in-game. That's all the Rings that were made.

[Garet Jax]

Im guessing someone who was wearing the ring was consumed by the dragon, and someone else who was there to witness it fled for his ing life and told everyone how crazy that was. Idk though, maybe the dragons were more literate than you think...

[Palanthir]

The nazgul did nor wear the rings of power they were held by Sauron. When the witch king was killed the there was no ring mentioned...
From Unfinished Tales:

"At length he (Sauron) resolved that no others would serve him in this case but his mightiest servants, the Ringwraiths, who had no will but his own, being utterly subservient to the ring that had enslaved him, which Sauron held."

and

"They were by far the most powerful of his servants, and the most suitable for such a mission, since they were entirely enslaved to their Nine Rings, which he now himself held..."

[Withwnar]

"They were by far the most powerful of his servants, and the most suitable for such a mission, since they were entirely enslaved to their Nine Rings, which he now himself held..."

That could just mean that he completely controlled them, not had them in his possession. i.e. Held in his power, not his hand.

I always assumed that they still wore them but you may have a point there Muffer. And true, there was no mention of a dropped ring after the Witch King dies. On the other hand there was no mention of a lot of things...

As for the dragons: they may have consumed the rings and later excreted them. There's a joke in there somewhere about passing rings on but I can't seem to find it. And those dragons could have been killed too. All speculation of course.

I'm sure that Barahir was a common name in those parts/times. It's possible that there was more than one "Ring of Barahir". Nine? Maybe it was really common. Or Sauron had no imagination when it came to naming things.

[Palanthir]

Why didn't Frodo, as Ring Bearer, see the rings on the Ringwraiths on Weathertop and at the Ford of Bruinen when he saw their swords, pale faces, their eyes, and their crowns?
Compare this to the fact that while in Lothlórien he was able to see Galadriel's ring, Nenya, upon her finger when Sam could not.
In LOTR Gandalf says "So it is now; the Nine he had gathered to himself; the Seven also, or else they are destroyed. The Three are hidden still".

[Kolaris8472]

Wait, is it a literal meaning of 'consume'?

I was taking it more as 'despoiled' or 'corrupted', but I guess it would be pretty hard to ruin a ring made by Sauron, since he's a pretty evil guy himself.

[Hallow]

That could just mean that he completely controlled them, not had them in his possession. i.e. Held in his power, not his hand.

I always assumed that they still wore them but you may have a point there Muffer. And true, there was no mention of a dropped ring after the Witch King dies. On the other hand there was no mention of a lot of things...

As for the dragons: they may have consumed the rings and later excreted them. There's a joke in there somewhere about passing rings on but I can't seem to find it. And those dragons could have been killed too. All speculation of course.

I'm sure that Barahir was a common name in those parts/times. It's possible that there was more than one "Ring of Barahir". Nine? Maybe it was really common. Or Sauron had no imagination when it came to naming things.

The ring of Barahir was the ring that Finrod Felagund gave to Barahir as a sign of friendship and alliance when he discovered his house of men on a hunting trip, this heirloom was given down through his line to the line of Isildur and the chieftains of the Dunedain, in the end Aragorn ended up with it. (FYI Barahir was Beren's father)

[Palanthir]

That could just mean that he completely controlled them, not had them in his possession. i.e. Held in his power, not his hand.

This statement is clearly in context with rings and not wills as mention of the Seven is made. We know of no wraiths or slaves that wear the remaining Seven. Therefore, gathering the Nine and Seven to himself means just that - Sauron has the Nine and remaining Seven Rings in his physical possession.
EDIT: i am referring to
"So it is now; the Nine he had gathered to himself; the Seven also, or else they are destroyed. The Three are hidden still"

[Elven Warrior]

The nazgul did nor wear the rings of power they were held by Sauron. When the witch king was killed the there was no ring mentioned...
From Unfinished Tales:

"At length he (Sauron) resolved that no others would serve him in this case but his mightiest servants, the Ringwraiths, who had no will but his own, being utterly subservient to the ring that had enslaved him, which Sauron held."

and

"They were by far the most powerful of his servants, and the most suitable for such a mission, since they were entirely enslaved to their Nine Rings, which he now himself held..."

the witch king of Angmar was not a ring wraith he was a separate being instead

[Nemesis_GR]

He was a ring wraith.And u have a good shovel.

[Phier]

I believe the dwarf rings would be mostly held by Sauron. I forget who and which but he managed to get some of them.

[Palanthir]

one was believed lost in Moria

Gandalf said the Council of Elrond that Thrór had given his ring, the last of the Seven, to his son Thráin II prior to Thrór's departure for Moria. Thráin II was subsequently captured, imprisoned, and tormented by Sauron at Dol Guldur nearly one hundred years before the beginning of The Hobbit in T.A. 2845.