Urak Hai Stamina

**overlordjebus** · May 08, 2009, 05:35 AM

Why is it that the description of Urak Hai says they are bred to have incredible stamina so they can run immense distances, yet in battle, they seem to get exhausted quicker then any other unit?

Is this just me, or is something not right here

**Andersen** · May 08, 2009, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by overlordjebus

Why is it that the description of Urak Hai says they are bred to have incredible stamina so they can run immense distances, yet in battle, they seem to get exhausted quicker then any other unit?

Is this just me, or is something not right here

Use Mithrandirs submod. It fixes it!

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=254055

**overlordjebus** · May 08, 2009, 06:02 AM

Thanks, glad it wasn't just me

**Badg3r** · May 08, 2009, 03:06 PM

i just edited it my slef
of all the fixes this is probably one of the ones most easily do-able
actualy, iv'e edited quite a few unit stats so far, mainly removeing the javalins from the snaga skirmishers

**Kolaris8472** · May 08, 2009, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Badg3r

i just edited it my slef
mainly removeing the javalins from the snaga skirmishers

And rename them to 'walking casualty'?

Haha but really, I just removed their armor piercing attribute and lowered the attack and ammo a bit and find them a lot more balanced.

**liddabit** · May 08, 2009, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Badg3r

actualy, iv'e edited quite a few unit stats so far, mainly removeing the javalins from the snaga skirmishers

...... Where is the fun in that?!

**marceror** · May 08, 2009, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by liddabit

...... Where is the fun in that?!

In editing unit stats? Well, I guess if the edits make the game more enjoyable for someone, than there... there's where the fun is in that!

**~~Palanthir~~** · May 08, 2009, 10:55 PM

It seems very few units except for elves have the Hardy attribute. Usually its just elite units

**marceror** · May 08, 2009, 03:20 PM

I guess you could give them the hardy stat to simulate their stamina. If they don't already have it, it would seem an appropriate addition.

**marceror** · May 09, 2009, 12:37 AM

In my recollection of the books, and certainly in the movies, Saruman's Uruk's did not tire easily. I wouldn't think it a stretch to give some, possibly all Uruk Hai the hardy trait... perhaps some further tweaking of stats would be required for overall balance. Hmm, maybe I'll mod my game to explore this possibility.

**overlordjebus** · May 09, 2009, 07:25 AM

Yea, it's really annoying storming a huge castle and by the time youve got to the third layer of defenses all your units Uruks are exhausted when they are supposed to be able to run miles without even breaking a sweat

**ISA Gunner** · May 09, 2009, 07:33 AM

Go to the EDU and just change their attribute to excellent stamina. Not too difficult.

**MasterBigAb** · May 09, 2009, 12:56 PM

Yes but it woul also be very nice, if it would be improved in the next update...

**MadTiest** · May 09, 2009, 01:28 PM

You absolutely had to make a seperate thread for this issue? Srsly?

Although I can't say I've contributed much lately either

My brainstroming thread sank like a dead hooker in the New York harbor.

Yes but it woul also be very nice, if it would be improved in the next update...

Very likeley, I believe RC's changes are going to be integrated in the main mod.

**MasterBigAb** · May 09, 2009, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by MadTiest

You absolutely had to make a seperate thread for this issue? Srsly?

Although I can't say I've contributed much lately either

My brainstroming thread sank like a dead hooker in the New York harbor.

Very likeley, I believe RC's changes are going to be integrated in the main mod.

Nice to hear

**marceror** · May 09, 2009, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by ISA Gunner

Go to the EDU and just change their attribute to excellent stamina. Not too difficult.

I'm pretty sure there's no such attribute for stamina as "excellent." Your options are nothing (i.e. normal), hardy or very hardy, IIRC.

**JonSnow** · May 09, 2009, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by ISA Gunner

Go to the EDU and just change their attribute to excellent stamina. Not too difficult.

Talk about oversimplifying it... you have to make sure the spacing is perfect and the trait would be very_hardy if you want them to have excellent stamina. If you're even ONE space off you'll CTD... hardly as simple as just writing excellent stamina somewhere...

**Apostle Zodd** · May 09, 2009, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by JonSnow

Talk about oversimplifying it... you have to make sure the spacing is perfect and the trait would be very_hardy if you want them to have excellent stamina. If you're even ONE space off you'll CTD... hardly as simple as just writing excellent stamina somewhere...

how is that difficult?

copy and paste is your friend