Crashes

**damnmap** · May 08, 2009, 01:31 AM

Was playing as Armenia for a few hours and noticed roughly 5 crashes during or at the end of battles... really annoying :> Was wondering if there was anything I could do... would disabling autosave help out?

**Brusilov** · May 08, 2009, 03:17 AM

It's recommended that autosave is disabled.

Were there any messages after the CTDs? Have you got the -show_err switch on the shortcut?

**Gaius Flavius Constantius** · May 08, 2009, 04:59 AM

Mad Syatem ....i set autosave off and playing Romans on H/H yet afer a few turns mine clash too..i later use M/M its alright all the way ..can the game play support Hard in 1st place Not ??

**Brusilov** · May 08, 2009, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Gaius Flavius Constantius

Mad Syatem ....i set autosave off and playing Romans on H/H yet afer a few turns mine clash too..i later use M/M its alright all the way ..can the game play support Hard in 1st place Not ??

I play ion H (campaign) /H (battlemap). I know many people play on H/VH.

Please post specs of your computer - it's more likely that is what is the problem or the fact that your PC is in need of some maintenance.

**dvk901** · May 08, 2009, 07:50 AM

The install instructions include this highly recommended advice:

Open 'Preferrences.txt' in your RTW/preferences folder and set 'AUTO_SAVE:FALSE'. This will disable the buggy RTW Autosave feature, so be sure and save you campaign occasionally, especially before an important battle, or after playing for a long time.

I would also HIGHLY RECOMMEND that one save often and to files of a different name...ie, save1, save2, save3, etc. Many, many people lose campaigns because they save consistantly to only one save file...so if their campaign becomes corrupt, there is no way to go back and get around it. By having multiple saves, if something goes wrong, you can always go back to a 'working' one before the problems started and get around the problem. It's very likely the game won't make the same mistake twice in the same place. I know this, because I've run into it many of times. There are things in RTW that just 'go wrong' at some point or another, even in the best and most carefully written mods.

**damnmap** · May 08, 2009, 01:06 PM

So my best bet is to disable autosave... and I will add '-show_err' to my shortcut Brusilov so I can report what caused the crash if I still get lots of them

disgard that the exe already has '-nm -show_err' and I get no messages when it crashes

**damnmap** · May 09, 2009, 02:16 AM

The crashes are all battle related... either during or right at the end. Disabling auto-save does not help

**chaney** · May 09, 2009, 06:23 AM

Did you install RS onto a clean freshly installed RTW 1.5

**damnmap** · May 09, 2009, 12:44 PM

Yes it's a fresh install of Rome no other mods it is auto-patched to 1.5 (sega retail version), an interesting point is that I don't recall any crashes when I was playing as a Greek faction it only seems to occur as Armenia. I think my horse archer armies are screwing with the game in some way

**Squid** · May 09, 2009, 03:10 PM

Just because it's sega does not mean it is patched to 1.5. Have you checked the option screen to verify that the game is actually patched to 1.5.

**damnmap** · May 09, 2009, 03:25 PM

Yes I checked in options before posting it's 1.5

Alot of the battle crashes appear right at the end. When the scroll with the battle stats appears and you press the finish button it crashes to desktop and p*sses me off intensely

Say 1 in every 5 battles

There are a few rare cases of battles CTD in the early stages of a fight... again I think this issue only happens with Armenia

**Brusilov** · May 09, 2009, 04:17 PM

Did this happen with RTW 1.5? Is it specific to your RS1.5c install?

**chaney** · May 09, 2009, 04:20 PM

Did you edit any unit or battlemap files by accident

**dvk901** · May 09, 2009, 10:40 PM

RS1.5, though plagued at times with the inherent faults and instability of RTW itself, is a very stable mod. We've seen no consistant reports of crashes as you describe, except by people who ignore the install instructions and recommendations. If you were using the 'auto_save' feature previously (in otherwords, had it set to 'TRUE') it is entirely possible that you saved games got corrupted, or that you are using a corrupted saved game. Having Auto_save set to TRUE, and consistantly saving to only one saved game file are the most common causes of CTD's. There are the occasional CTD's caused by a 'game flaw' after you conquer a town\city (at the 'occupy, enslave, relocate' screen)...this is something that as far as anyone knows, can only be 'minimized' as far as frequency, but not totally eliminated. The best way to avoid losing campaigns is to save often, and save to different file names.

The other very rare cause of instability in RTW or ANY mod...not just RS1.5,.....is a corrupted install of the game. This happens more often with an installation directly from the RTW-CD's....dirty CD's, scratched or cracked will cause file misreads that lead to things missing in your install.....a dirty\dusty CDROM can cause this as well. But, I can tell you from experience that an RTW install from a perfectly GOOD set of CD's can just plain go 'bonkers' at times.....I've had it happen. For that reason, I have a 'known good' installation of RTW and RTW\BI that I use all the time to test in and install mods.

And finally, I have had a perfectly good installation of RTW with a working mod in it just plain up and die on me. One day it worked fine, the next it crashed all the time. So I would suggest that a new clean install\copy of RTW with a fresh install of RS1.5 is the solution to your problem.