BREAKING NEWS ! European Muslims are NOT Evil OR Disloyal !!

[Каие]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8038398.stm

European Muslims have much more loyalty to the countries they live in than is generally believed, a survey says.

The report by Gallup and the Coexist Foundation says 77% of British Muslims identified with the UK, compared with 50% of the general public.

There was a similar finding in Germany, the survey says.

The authors say their report counters a commonly-held view that measures to combat Islamic militancy may have alienated many European Muslims.

"This research shows that many of the assumptions about Muslims and integration are wide of the mark," said Dalia Mogahed of the Gallup Center for Muslim Studies and co-author of the report.
"European Muslims want to be part of the wider community and contribute even more to society," she said.

The findings of the report are surprising, because since the 11 September attacks in the US commentators have repeatedly questioned the loyalties of European Muslims to the countries they live in, the BBC's Rob Broomby says.

The research - which focused mainly on European Muslims in Britain, France and Germany - polled around 500 Muslims and 1,000 members of the general public in each country.

'Isolated'

In Britain, the report found that more than three-quarters of Muslims identified with the country and its institutions - far more even than the general population did.

But whereas the vast majority of British Muslims (82%) felt Muslims were loyal citizens, the general public remained suspicious of them.

In Germany, 40% of Muslims identified with the country against 32% of the wider public.
German Muslims were also found far more likely than the general public to have confidence in the judicial system, financial institutions and the honesty of elections.

They had higher levels of confidence in their national government than society as a whole, but much less faith in the media.

In France, 52% of Muslims identified with the country, compared with 55% of the general public.
However, the report found that French Muslims had much less confidence in the nation's institutions, including police.

The survey also said that European Muslims felt far more isolated than those living in the United States and Canada.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...opulation.html

The survey by Gallup has found that 77 per cent of Muslims say they "identified with the UK" compared with only 50 per cent of the public at large.

Most Muslims - 75 per cent - say they also identify with their religion, according to the poll conducted with the interfaith Coexist Foundation.

Muslims also outscored the general public for their belief in courts, honest elections, financial institutions and the media.

Confidence in the military was the only area where British Muslims scored lower than the general public.

Gallup conducted face to face interviews with more than 500 Muslims over 18 in areas where they made up more than 5 per cent of the population.

That was compared with a telephone poll of 1,000 people aged over 15, weighted to reflect the general population.

It revealed that 82 per cent of Muslim say they are loyal to the UK, although only 36 per cent of the general public would consider Muslims loyal to the country.

Only 12 per cent of Muslims believe that removing the veil is necessary for integration, compared with 53 per cent of the general public.

Only 18 per cent of the public said the same about removing the Sikh turban.
The report also found that Muslims tend to hold more conservative views on moral issues than the general public in France, Germany and Britain.

Muhammad Yunis, senior analyst at Gallup, said: "In the aftermath of the horrific London bombing, Britain's multicultural approach to integration came under fire from pundits in Europe and the United States, who saw it as an appeasement of unreasonable demands and promoting parallel societies.

"However, it appears British Muslims are more likely to identify strongly with their nation, and to express stronger confidence in its democratic institutions, while maintaining a high degree of religious identity."

But the economic difficulties faced by Muslims also came out in the survey which found that only 7 per cent were considered "thriving" compared with 56 per cent of the general population and only 38 per cent said they had a job, compared with 62 per cent of the general public.

Dalia Mogahed, executive director of the Gallup Centre for Muslim Studies who has recently been appointed as an adviser to President Obama, said: "This research shows that many of the assumptions about Muslims and integration couldn't be more wide of the mark.

"British Muslims want to be part of the wider community and contribute to society however in many cases it is a harsh economic reality that holds them back and stops them from realising their full potential."

The report also includes results of a 27 country survey, spanning four continents which found that 99 per cent of the population of Bangladesh said religion played an important part of daily life while only 29 per cent said the same in Britain and 20 per cent in Norway, which same bottom of the table.

[The Dude]

I would also identify with a country who's politics were solely aimed at giving me everything.

These statistics are rubbish anyway. What parameters were used to define the term "identifying" anyway? We need to know which feelings are defined by this word as otherwise it's just a bunch of generic vagueness. The way I see it, this article confirms my exact feelings: that autochthonous citizens are unhappy with how the government runs things/immigrants, whereas allochthonous citizens are catered to and thus feel that the nation they live in does pretty well by them.

[Treize]

I would also identify with a country who's politics were solely aimed at giving me everything.

I almost had to laugh
Haha


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What does 'to indentfy with your country' means in this article?

[DekuTrash]

I would also identify with a country who's politics were solely aimed at giving me everything.

True

[2-D Ron]

I would also identify with a country who's politics were solely aimed at giving me everything.

INNIT !!!

[Sven788]

I would also identify with a country who's politics were solely aimed at giving me everything.

So damn true!!!!

+1 rep

[Yosemite]

I would also identify with a country who's politics were solely aimed at giving me everything.

i'm a ing king in france man, they bow to me and !

[Каие]

What complete cats bollocks.

[Ummon]

You are right: more than everything, if possible.

[Gobmech]

What?! Are you saying that the foreigners are not just trying to destroy our glorious, pure Western nations?

That is absurd!

[Ummon]

What?! Are you saying that the foreigners are not just trying to destroy our glorious, pure Western nations?

That is absurd!

Actually, purity, western-ness and glory have little to do with this. But overall, already a funny thread.

[Treize]

Becaus ethe muslims have lived in Europe for only about 3 generations, they still believe in politics while the natives don't believe in it as it should be.

The institutes sound abit biased to me.

[Mithie]

One of my Muslim friends is a retired navy chaplain who went from mosque to mosque organizing a volunteer relief force after Katrina that did a lot of work rebuilding New Orleans. He's the biggest American patriot I know. He served in the Navy for 17 years first as a helicopter pilot then later as a Chaplain (his vision deteriorated with age).

[Wilder]

One of my Muslim friends is a retired navy chaplain who went from mosque to mosque organizing a volunteer relief force after Katrina that did a lot of work rebuilding New Orleans. He's the biggest American patriot I know. He served in the Navy for 17 years first as a helicopter pilot then later as a Chaplain (his vision deteriorated with age).

Awesome.

Little known fact: the Emir of Qatar has personally sponsored some 50 Habitat for humanity homes every year since Katrina, in the gulf. I worked on ten of them in the 08 Jimmy Carter Blitz in Mississippi. the Man is rich as Solomon's' balls but I can't help but be impressed. It is more then any American official has done that I can think of at this moment.

[Koil]

Must be lies!! Muslims in the UK cannot possibly be like that! It must be false....

[Dr. Croccer]

I would also identify with a country who's politics were solely aimed at giving me everything.

Oh grow up. You don't like Muslims, we know it already. Don't puch it with absurd claims.

Anyways, there was a similair statistic in the Netherlands. A greater percentage Muslims appreciate the country than natives.

[Phier]

Muhammad Yunis, senior analyst at Gallup

Well I see thats going to go over well.....

38 per cent said they had a job, compared with 62 per cent of the general public.

Don't you people work over there?

38% of Muslims and 62% of the general public have jobs?!?

[Каие]

Muhammad Yunis, senior analyst at Gallup

Well I see thats going to go over well.....

Oh, I see.

"Oh look that guy has an Arab name, that makes him automatically a liar, and this whole poll a lie.''

38 per cent said they had a job, compared with 62 per cent of the general public.

Don't you people work over there?

38% of Muslims and 62% of the general public have jobs?!?

Remarkably, there is a possibility that 38% of over 15 year olds are either in full time education, unemployed or retired in the midst of a recession.

[Phier]

Oh, I see.

"Oh look that guy has an Arab name, that makes him automatically a liar, and this whole poll a lie.''

Hey if you want to play politics you gotta think of that sort of thing.

I decided to do something you didn't and read the whole survey instead of the paper. Interestingly of German, French, and British Muslims and public, the British Muslims are the least like to treat someone of another religion with respect. 51% for Brit Muslims, all of the others were 60+, but that didn't make the story. And it seems the 76% is for their respect of the court system more than anything else.

Also ZERO% of the British Muslims think that homosexuality is morally acceptable, (FAR less than other counties).

And only 7% think they are thriving, the rest say they are struggling or suffering, which again is FAR lower than any other country's Muslim population.

Only 5% think that abortion is morally acceptable (FAR less than French/German again)

1% think viewing pornography is morally acceptable (far far less again)

3% on sex outside of marriage being morally acceptable (far far less)

Though, they do score high on the death penalty

63% in favor, the highest of any group in the 3 nations.

Just what the is up with British Muslims?

[Visna]

WTF Rome?
Are you implying that Muslims are not one huge easily identifiable mass of people all sharing a hive mind and all set on collision course with the west with the ulterior motive to destroy this great civilization?
This is madness!