Pictures of Sino vietnam war taken by chinese

[crazyorc]

[hellheaven1987]

Cool, except Chinese failed the operation.

Strange though, it seems every Communist Asian did not like its Communist neighbour too much; look how Vietnam went into Cambodia and kicked the genocide government's butt.

[IronBrig4]

Strange though, it seems every Communist Asian did not like its Communist neighbour too much; look how Vietnam went into Cambodia and kicked the genocide government's butt.

Silence! They were all puppets of the Kremlin! The wave of post-war nationalism had nothing to do with it! If you don't agree, then you're a Pinko sympathizer!

[hellheaven1987]

Silence! They were all puppets of the Kremlin! The wave of post-war nationalism had nothing to do with it! If you don't agree, then you're a Pinko sympathizer!

Nonsense, that was exactly what Vietnamese said about Chinese.

[sephodwyrm]

Cool, except Chinese failed the operation.

Really?
IndoChina hardly came under Vietnamese dominance, and Vietnam is still a second rate power in the region. Hardly a major player.

[cottontail]

Really?
IndoChina hardly came under Vietnamese dominance, and Vietnam is still a second rate power in the region. Hardly a major player.

They have the 2nd fastest growing economy in Asia ( though not nearly a match for China...yet), I hardly call that "2nd rate".

[Erebus Pasha]

Really?
IndoChina hardly came under Vietnamese dominance, and Vietnam is still a second rate power in the region. Hardly a major player.

Chinese intervention was a bit of a debacle to be fair. They lacked modern equipment and faced tough opposition from tough and experienced Vietnamese regulars. The aim was to relieve pressure upon Cambodia but they failed with their incursion into North Vietnam and were forced into beating a rather hast retreat.

Some good pics though.

[IronBrig4]

Chinese intervention was a bit of a debacle to be fair. They lacked modern equipment and faced tough opposition from tough and experienced Vietnamese regulars. The aim was to relieve pressure upon Cambodia but they failed with their incursion into North Vietnam and were forced into beating a rather hast retreat.

This was also during the Red Guard movement. The "better Red than expert" mentality was present even in the military. Soldiers who excelled at any field like marksmanship or demolitions would often find themselves in front of a committee because being too good at something was counter-revolutionary. The officer corps was just as badly affected by prevailing politics as well.

[Stavroforos]

This was posted why?

I mean, is there a point or an argument being made?

[Chukada1]

This was posted why?

I mean, is there a point or an argument being made?

Because its cool, and historical?

[Nikitn]

Classic, you got any more pictures?

[sephodwyrm]

Chinese armored battalions and infantry in Northern Vietnam.

[sephodwyrm]

I hardly call that "2nd rate".

Compare this one with India, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand.
Having a fast growth rate does not mean that the economy is first rate in size.

they failed with their incursion into North Vietnam

The aim was never to occupy Vietnam.

[Erebus Pasha]

The aim was never to occupy Vietnam.

Never said it was.

[sephodwyrm]

Never said it was.

So how is a failure in invading "something that was never intended" a failure?

The Sino-Vietnam war is a big even politically but hardly understood. It marks the final blow of the Sino-Soviet split (China formally exiting the traditional Soviet conglomerate), consolidated Deng's position in the military, denied Vietnamese dominance in Indochina and ranks amongst the worst incident that happened in the Communist bloc during the Cold War. Unknown to most people is the fact that China and Russia both have hundreds of thousands of men on their borders during the event of the Sino Vietnam War. You know what bankrupted the Soviet Economy? The nukes and that huge garrison on two fronts.

And incidentally, Sino-US relations got a lot better with this. And so did the pace of modernization. If Vietnam won the war, I would see both Cambodia and Laos being subjugated by the state. But they aren't.

[Erebus Pasha]

So how is a failure in invading "something that was never intended" a failure?

Because they failed to divert sufficient Vietnamese troops away from Cambodia to relieve pressure on the embattled regime there.

[Azog 150]

Good pictures. Thanks for sharing

[Dr. Croccer]

Nice pics.

[bushbush]

they weren't china's crack troops even at those time. China's best forces were still in the north defending a possible Soviet invasion (legacy of Sino-Soviet split). And to be fair, the whole invasion was commanded by Xu Shiyou...a...pretty crappy commander, rising through the ranks because he was a body guard for Mao.

[sephodwyrm]

whole invasion was commanded by Xu Shiyou...a...pretty crappy commander, rising through the ranks because he was a body guard for Mao.

Like I said, the importance of the front would determine the quality of the commander of that front~~

The conflict is more of a show case to the US:
China: see, we will beat Vietnam to show you that we're reliable
USSR: NYET!!!
US: Gewwwwwwwd~~~~
China: Now we will also welcome foreign investments and gradual opening up of our isolationist market policies
US: Gewwwwwwwd~~~~ (it will become Nuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh!! in the future due to free trade)