About Silvan Elf general

[Dermeister]

ok first of im sorry if this wasent posted at the right place feel free to guide me if i posted this in the rong erea.

To move on with my question,is it posible to make the Silvan General not his unit but the single general himself look like the Silvan heavy swordsman??

i really like the silvan heavy archer spearman and swordsmen and i yes i think the shield and sword the general has are nice but i prefer a single 2 handed elven blade liek the sindar archers have.

the idea is to make my general exacly like a silvan heavyswordsman basecly.. ive looked in the mod work shop but so far all the info i found was irrelivent.
So i figured id ask around incase a pro moder is lurkign and wouled not mind to help me.

this is purly for my own enjoyment of this amazing mod and im a picky person and the General curently bugs me so i wanted to change his looks if posible thanks

[Hallow]

ok first of im sorry if this wasent posted at the right place feel free to guide me if i posted this in the rong erea.

To move on with my question,is it posible to make the Silvan General not his unit but the single general himself look like the Silvan heavy swordsman??

i really like the silvan heavy archer spearman and swordsmen and i yes i think the shield and sword the general has are nice but i prefer a single 2 handed elven blade liek the sindar archers have.

the idea is to make my general exacly like a silvan heavyswordsman basecly.. ive looked in the mod work shop but so far all the info i found was irrelivent.
So i figured id ask around incase a pro moder is lurkign and wouled not mind to help me.

this is purly for my own enjoyment of this amazing mod and im a picky person and the General curently bugs me so i wanted to change his looks if posible thanks

I would agree it would be nice, but some feature would have to be added so he looked *a little* different, perhaps a different colour on his cloak? (Although they should all have green cloaks imo)

[Dermeister]

you red my mind... wich is why have u notticed sindar archers.. have blue capes... silvan heavy swordsmen have green cape?? wich is why i want to make him look exacly liek a silvan heavy swordsmen

[Hallow]

you red my mind... wich is why have u notticed sindar archers.. have blue capes... silvan heavy swordsmen have green cape?? wich is why i want to make him look exacly liek a silvan heavy swordsmen

Ah I see, didnt catch this from your first post, sorry

Totally agree though.

[Dermeister]

Ah I see, didnt catch this from your first post, sorry

Totally agree though.

it shoulent be to hard to do if u know how.. sicne the models and texture are allready made... but i have no clue how to do it i red a tutorial that ditn quite make sence to me and i fubared my game while trying but i had backed up every file i messed with so its no big deal but i hope some 1 comes foward to hlep or jsut does it and sends us the files modified that wouled be cool too

[Fishrudder]

Alright, I think I know how to get it
go to Sega/Medieval 2 Total War/mods/third age/data EDU
Find the Silvan Bodyguard unit and change it to this

type             Elf Bodyguard
dictionary       Elf_Bodyguard      ; Sindar Archers
category         infantry
class            missile
voice_type       General
banner faction   main_missile
banner holy      crusade
soldier          Lithuanian_Archers, 30, 0, 1.2
officer             Silvan_Heavy_Swordsmen
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraws, free_upkeep_unit, start_not_skirmishing, general_unit
move_speed_mod   1.1
formation        1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health      2, 0
stat_pri         14, 2, arrow, 210, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         7, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  5, 5, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        6
stat_ground      1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental      14, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 780, 300, 75, 75, 780, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models elf_guard2
ownership        mongols
era 0            mongols
era 1            mongols
era 2            mongols
recruit_priority_offset    5

That should work, give it a try

[Himura]

I would agree it would be nice, but some feature would have to be added so he looked *a little* different, perhaps a different colour on his cloak? (Although they should all have green cloaks imo)

haldir's cloak was red in the movie

[Haigojan]

They really should make the silvan generals look more like Haldir.

[Dermeister]

i really want to know how to just replace the textures and models i got the model to work but the texturs on it look kinda wierd cause icant find the right texture to replace... otherwise it wouled be easy but then ithink it replaces both Elven generals not just silvan so i dunno hopfulyl some 1 can figure it out


ok so i was abled to find out what files needed to be replacec bu chicking the unit DB file i think this files lets uchange weapons ect but i ditn want otchange nothign i ntherei ncase it wouled fubar my game if your familiar with it i wouled like to make my general a bowman + 2 handed sword like his bodyguards but i dont know if i need to convirt the file first b4 moding it.. or what .. also if some 1 is familiar with the Unit DB file and knows how to modifie it please let me know ive looked up tutorials but the way it was explained confused me even more.

so for now al i did was replace the textures and 3d model files them selves and it works but it also modifies the High elf general... if its posible i wouled liek to modifie only silvan but tellign the unit DB to use certain files for only this unit and not the high elvs.

Fishrudder when u read this let me know ill check the forums later

[Fishrudder]

It will effect the general himself, not the bodyguard, give me a minute, I'll make it so it doesn't change anything

[Dermeister]

thank you very much good sir you just made my night ispent al lafternoon and evenign trying to do this lol

i have yet to try it in game im curretly makign the changes ill keep u posted to see if it worked



It CTD crashed to desktop did it work on your end?

[Fishrudder]

The first one, He will have the stats of a normal heavy Swordsmen, this one, he has general's bodyguard stats, unless I'm horribly mistaken

type             Silvan Heavy Swordsmen General
dictionary       Silvan_Heavy_Swordsmen_General      ; Silvan Heavy Swordsmen General
category         infantry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_infantry
banner holy      crusade
soldier          Janissary_Heavy_Inf, 60, 0, 1.2    ;Elf_Sword
officer             silvan_captain_early_flag
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
move_speed_mod   1.1
formation        1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health      1, 0
stat_pri         16, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, slashing, sword, 5, 1
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  5, 5, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        6
stat_ground      1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental      14, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 650, 260, 75, 75, 650, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models silvan_heavy_swordsmen
ownership        mongols
era 0            mongols
era 1            mongols
era 2            mongols
recruit_priority_offset    10

Insert that at the bottom of the Silvan Elves section in the EDU

And then change the Sindar Archers to

type             Elf Bodyguard
dictionary       Elf_Bodyguard      ; Sindar Archers
category         infantry
class            missile
voice_type       General
banner faction   main_missile
banner holy      crusade
soldier          Lithuanian_Archers, 30, 0, 1.2
officer          Silvan_Heavy_Swordsmen_General
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraws, free_upkeep_unit, start_not_skirmishing, general_unit
move_speed_mod   1.1
formation        1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health      2, 0
stat_pri         14, 2, arrow, 210, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         7, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  5, 5, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        6
stat_ground      1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental      14, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 780, 300, 75, 75, 780, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models elf_guard2
ownership        mongols
era 0            mongols
era 1            mongols
era 2            mongols
recruit_priority_offset    5

It won't be save game compatible, at least I don't think, start a new campaign, and let me know if it works

[Fishrudder]

I didn't try it

put (bracket)code(bracket) then copy your EDU then end the code, I'll look through it

Wait, you made a backup right?

[Dermeister]

I didn't try it

put (bracket)code(bracket) then copy your EDU then end the code, I'll look through it

Wait, you made a backup right?

LOl yes dont worrie im a noob but i back up anything i change....

give me a sec i have to redo it because i deleted the edu i changed to replace it with my back up..

 ;#################################################################
;########################## SILVAN ELVES #######################
;################################################################# 
;type Elf Archers (see High Elves)
 
type Silvan Archer
dictionary Silvan_Archer ; Silvan Archers
category infantry
class missile
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_missile
banner holy crusade
soldier Lithuanian_Archers, 60, 0, 1
officer silvan_captain_early_flag
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
move_speed_mod 1.1
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 12, 2, arrow, 210, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 5, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 4, 3, 0, leather
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 10, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 580, 250, 75, 75, 580, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models Silvan_Archer
ownership mongols
era 0 mongols
era 1 mongols
era 2 mongols
recruit_priority_offset 5
 
type Elf Guard
dictionary Elf_Guard ; Silvan Heavy Archers
category infantry
class missile
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_missile
banner holy crusade
soldier Lithuanian_Archers, 60, 0, 1.2
officer silvan_captain_early_flag
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraws, free_upkeep_unit, start_not_skirmishing
move_speed_mod 1.1
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 13, 2, arrow, 210, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 7, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 6, 4, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 12, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 740, 290, 75, 75, 740, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models Elf_Guard
ownership mongols
era 0 mongols
era 1 mongols
era 2 mongols
recruit_priority_offset 10
 
type Silvan Spear
dictionary Silvan_Spear ; Silvan Spearmen
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_spear
banner holy crusade
soldier Silvan_Spear, 60, 0, 1
officer silvan_captain_early_flag
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
move_speed_mod 1.1
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, schiltrom
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
stat_pri_attr spear, spear_bonus_4
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 4, 3, 4, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 9, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 430, 190, 75, 75, 430, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models Silvan_Spear
ownership mongols
era 0 mongols
era 1 mongols
era 2 mongols
recruit_priority_offset 0
 
type Silvan Sword
dictionary Silvan_Sword ; Forest Wardens
category infantry
class light
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Norse_Swordsmen, 60, 0, 1
officer silvan_captain_early_flag
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
move_speed_mod 1.1
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 8, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 4, 3, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 10, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 530, 220, 75, 75, 530, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 2
armour_ug_models silvan_sword
ownership mongols
era 0 mongols
era 1 mongols
era 2 mongols
recruit_priority_offset 5
 
type Silvan Heavy Spearmen
dictionary Silvan_Heavy_Spearmen ; Silvan Heavy Spearmen
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_spear
banner holy crusade
soldier Elf_Spear, 60, 0, 1.2
officer silvan_captain_early_flag
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
move_speed_mod 1.1
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, shield_wall
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 8, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
stat_pri_attr spear, spear_bonus_4
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 6, 6, 4, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 13, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 670, 260, 75, 75, 670, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models silvan_heavy_spearmen
ownership mongols
era 0 mongols
era 1 mongols
era 2 mongols
recruit_priority_offset 10
 
type Silvan Heavy Swordsmen
dictionary Silvan_Heavy_Swordsmen ; Silvan Heavy Swordsmen
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Janissary_Heavy_Inf, 60, 0, 1.2 ;Elf_Sword
officer silvan_captain_early_flag
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
move_speed_mod 1.1
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 11, 8, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, slashing, sword, 5, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 7, 6, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 14, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 650, 260, 75, 75, 650, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models silvan_heavy_swordsmen
ownership mongols
era 0 mongols
era 1 mongols
era 2 mongols
recruit_priority_offset 10
 
type Silvan Horsearchers
dictionary Silvan_Horsearchers ; Silvan Horsearchers
category cavalry
class missile
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier Turkopoles, 30, 0, 1
officer silvan_captain_early_flag
mount heavy horse
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, cantabrian_circle, free_upkeep_unit
formation 2, 4.4, 3, 6, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 9, 2, cav_composite_arrow, 150, 25, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 6, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 50, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 5, 3, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 0, -2, -2, 0
stat_mental 11, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 780, 290, 75, 75, 780, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 2
armour_ug_models silvan_mounted_archers
ownership mongols
era 0 mongols
era 1 mongols
era 2 mongols
recruit_priority_offset 5
 
type Elf Bodyguard
dictionary Elf_Bodyguard ; Sindar Archers
category infantry
class missile
voice_type General
banner faction main_missile
banner holy crusade
soldier Lithuanian_Archers, 30, 0, 1.2
officer Silvan_Heavy_Swordsmen_General
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, very_hardy, can_withdraws, free_upkeep_unit, start_not_skirmishing, general_unit
move_speed_mod 1.1
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 2, 0
stat_pri 14, 2, arrow, 210, 35, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 7, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 5, 5, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 14, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 780, 300, 75, 75, 780, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models elf_guard2
ownership mongols
era 0 mongols
era 1 mongols
era 2 mongols
recruit_priority_offset 5
 
type Silvan Heavy Swordsmen General
dictionary Silvan_Heavy_Swordsmen_General ; Silvan Heavy Swordsmen General
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Janissary_Heavy_Inf, 60, 0, 1.2 ;Elf_Sword
officer silvan_captain_early_flag
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
move_speed_mod 1.1
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 16, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, slashing, sword, 5, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 5, 5, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 14, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 650, 260, 75, 75, 650, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models silvan_heavy_swordsmen
ownership mongols
era 0 mongols
era 1 mongols
era 2 mongols
recruit_priority_offset 10
 
;#################################################################
;########################## DWARVES ############################
;################################################################

AHA lol thank u !

[Fishrudder]

put [ code ] at the beginning and [/ code] at the end, with no spaces

Alright, I think I got it
Try this

type Silvan Heavy Swordsmen General
dictionary Silvan_Heavy_Swordsmen_General ; Silvan Heavy Swordsmen General
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier Janissary_Heavy_Inf, 60, 0, 1.2 ;Elf_Sword
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
move_speed_mod 1.1
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 16, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, slashing, sword, 5, 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 25, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 5, 5, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 6
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 14, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 650, 260, 75, 75, 650, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models silvan_heavy_swordsmen
ownership mongols
era 0 mongols
era 1 mongols
era 2 mongols
recruit_priority_offset 10

[Dermeister]

On it i shall let u know what hapened

[Fishrudder]

Alright, waiting patiently, sorry if I don't respond right away, I'm working on something else

[Dermeister]

ohh dude dont worrie im jsut happy and appriciate your help in the first place.

and now it dosent crash to desktop while loading the main menu but it crashes to desktop jsut b4 a battle

[Fishrudder]

Darn... I got hopeful there for a minute, but that's good, real good, give me a few minutes to mess with it

[Dermeister]

okay i have all night so dont worrie about me im patient