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    I want to post up some Party Political Broadcasts, to discuss them, for the up coming local elections (which they're saying according to polls Labour will come out with less than 20% and losing all their councils). I was sent this in an email.

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    I tiered searching for Lib Dem and Labour ones, but only found some taking the total piss out of the Labour Party, a mock election campaign video. If anyone finds them, post them here and I'll update the OP. (I couldn't even find a BNP one, just a few of that fat slob taking breaths in between words as he tried to talk) Has everyone given up?

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    everytime ive seen a video with cameron he seems pretty down to earth to me, but then Blair was this new thing with a new face too back in the 90s and thats done us well... heh

    but he has my backing and i definately agree that the economy needs major restructuring.

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    Is change that popular of a slogan?
    America is an Apple pie
    with a few bad apples
    right toward the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by André Masséna View Post
    Is change that popular of a slogan?
    elections are usually about what people will change..so..yea

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    Quote Originally Posted by André Masséna View Post
    Is change that popular of a slogan?
    I read somewhere yesterday that Ahmmadandbad in Iran is using the "Yes we can" slogan of Obama in his campaign.
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    I know, but before this American election I'd have thought most people would have outgrown the concept of "Change for change sake"

    Change just seems like a bad campaign plea for attention. I'd be interested to see if the Republicans use it in 2012....it would amuse me so, and disgust me further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by André Masséna View Post
    I know, but before this American election I'd have thought most people would have outgrown the concept of "Change for change sake"

    Change just seems like a bad campaign plea for attention. I'd be interested to see if the Republicans use it in 2012....it would amuse me so, and disgust me further.
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    They are riding Obama's wave of popularity I guess.


    believe it or not Obama didnt coin the change stuff...such slogans have been used for, well, hundreds of years - was only so "omgnewcoolthing!" cos obama was of a different race, so he himself effectively symbolised this 'change' for America..

    and the tories 'change' slogan isnt about 'change for change sake' - this country is currently ed, and real change is indeed necessary.
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    I watched the whole thing and saw not a single specific policy proposal. I read all the election manifestos last election and saw only a handfull of specific policy proposals. "We need more good schools" and "we would restructure the way the economy is regulated" does not cut it with me no matter which politician it comes from. Democracy without participation boils down to picking between platitues and personalities.
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    Party political broadcasts. One thing in politics I take no notice of. Like Bovril I still see no real policies from Cameron and the Conservatives. All they seem to go on is that "We are not Labour" slogan. Well that is not good enough, the opposition should be out there telling people how they would be doing things better instead of just criticising Labour every 5 seconds. If they don't then to me they are still the party that caused all the ups and hell hole that Britain was during the time of Thatcher and her "I only care about the rich" mode that was around during hers and Majors government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nemgod View Post
    Party political broadcasts. One thing in politics I take no notice of. Like Bovril I still see no real policies from Cameron and the Conservatives. All they seem to go on is that "We are not Labour" slogan. Well that is not good enough, the opposition should be out there telling people how they would be doing things better instead of just criticising Labour every 5 seconds.
    Well, you can't get a full version of his political philosophy in 5 minutes...He seems to be far more concrete than both Obama and McCain without making silly promises that will either hurt the country or he won't keep.

    Quote Originally Posted by André Masséna View Post
    Is change that popular of a slogan?
    They are riding Obama's wave of popularity I guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CtrlAltDe1337 View Post
    Well, you can't get a full version of his political philosophy in 5 minutes...He seems to be far more concrete than both Obama and McCain without making silly promises that will either hurt the country or he won't keep.
    He very cleverly blends the silly promises he won't keep with a front of refusing to make silly promises. That bit about schools was classic. If you watch it he says to the woman that he's not going to get her child into her school of choice next year, but then burst into rhetoric about a tory government creating more and better schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovril View Post
    He very cleverly blends the silly promises he won't keep with a front of refusing to make silly promises. That bit about schools was classic. If you watch it he says to the woman that he's not going to get her child into her school of choice next year, but then burst into rhetoric about a tory government creating more and better schools.



    Indeed, I picked up on that too. The fact is he's a different face but full of the same old .


    Oh well, at least the Tories can't do worse in the PR game than scummy Labour......



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    Yeh and look where his change brought us...cheh

    Anything will be better for britian than that animal you call a human who leads you now.

    He started all these worthless bailouts in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin N View Post
    He started all these worthless bailouts in the first place.
    Martin? Could you please expand on that thought. It seems I had a pretty good discussion a couple weeks ago with someone who was blaming it on Americans. I didn't think much of it, since this is his usual style, but any links or sources you have verifying that it started with GB would be greatly appreciated.

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    Default Re: More Conservative propaganda - British Local Elections 2009

    it didnt start with britain, so, good luck with that

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    Britain is a mess anyway. We know Labour made an absolute mess and tbh the Tories have moved to centre so they probably won't fix anything, they're almost the same as Labour these days...

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    I saw this last night, and it was the first time I could actually picture Cameron as PM. I was going to vote Tory anyway but I tend to end up watching broadcasts just out of curiousity. That broadcast though did destroy any hope I had of the Tories doing something about tuition fees though, but I never really expected any change there.

    The Labour video the other day though was awful. It's Brown's awful smile... I can't remember anything from that video now except Brown, walking around in this walled garden, smiling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musthavename View Post
    That broadcast though did destroy any hope I had of the Tories doing something about tuition fees though, but I never really expected any change there.
    Same here. But I appreciate he actually told everyone straight, unlike the Labour Party which won't even comment on whether or not they plan to raise the fees if they are re elected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bovril View Post
    I watched the whole thing and saw not a single specific policy proposal.
    Off the top of my head, ending the government monopoly on schools to let more be opened and built. In response to a woman who's kid was rejected from all three high schools they chose.

    I read all the election manifestos last election and saw only a handfull of specific policy proposals.
    Are you being serious? I read all the manifestos of 2005, and I found absolute reams and reams of specific policies from every single party, as that is what a manifesto is for. In fact I was impressed with them, I would have voted for the Liberal one.

    But, and this is only an assumption, are you trying to say the Tories have NO policies?

    Quote Originally Posted by nemgod View Post
    Party political broadcasts. One thing in politics I take no notice of. Like Bovril I still see no real policies from Cameron and the Conservatives. All they seem to go on is that "We are not Labour" slogan.
    The only reason you've seen NO policies from Cameron and the Conservatives is because you haven't bothered to find out. Sigh. There was a time when voting was an important civic duty, and where every citizen saw it their duty to participate in politics. These days t seems some voters cannot even be arsed to fulfil the simple task of typing ''conservative Party'' ''Policies'' in the google search engine.

    Well that is not good enough, the opposition should be out there telling people how they would be doing things better instead of just criticising Labour every 5 seconds.
    1. They are
    2. Actually, the job of the Opposition (derived from the word oppose) is to oppose the governments crap plans and point out everything the government has done wrong.

    If they don't then to me they are still the party that caused all the ups and hell hole that Britain was during the time of Thatcher and her "I only care about the rich" mode that was around during hers and Majors government.
    Because Labour has caused NO ups, and they care about the poor right?

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    Probably the only good British party political broadcast I've ever seen, despite a bit of a rocky start. I am a massive fan of the direct democracy, town hall, American style-meetings. And I can tell you that Cameron's belief that he feels that Brown talks down to people and he does not is totally sincere.

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    tbh, I wasn't really that impressed. When he said, "we will regulate the economy differenlty" I thought he was actually going to tell us what he would do...but he didn't.

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