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    Default Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Well, what do you think?

    I think it isn't, mostly because it seems that the involvement was only intended for protecting the USA's assets in Kuwait. and at the time (Or maybe the more recent Iraq War) the conflict seemed a tad unecessary.
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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Considering Iraq invaded a foreign country and was put in a position to further threaten the world's oil supply, then I'd say yes, the Coalition was justified.

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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Well there are other countries and areas that have major oil resources like Russia (At the time) Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and the Gulf of Mexico.
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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Yet they are all critical to ensuring the global supply and global prices.

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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Fine, then explain the reason for the Iraq war. 9/11 doesn't count because that was caused by Al Qaeda, not one certain country.
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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    That's a different war and a different thread.

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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Huh It doesn't happen without the US
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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    Huh It doesn't happen without the US
    It was the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and the US came in after Kuwait begged them to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey5150 View Post
    It was the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and the US came in after Kuwait begged them to.
    No, the UN came in after. It was just the US that provided 85% of the muscle.

    Why would you ask if the gulf war was necessary then immediately ask Stavroforos to explain the current Iraq war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Jin View Post
    No, the UN came in after. It was just the US that provided 85% of the muscle.

    Why would you ask if the gulf war was necessary then immediately ask Stavroforos to explain the current Iraq war?
    Well they are both against the same enemy. and after a period of time the Iraq war did turn into a matter of oil and not just to find WOMD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey5150 View Post
    Well they are both against the same enemy. and after a period of time the Iraq war did turn into a matter of oil and not just to find WOMD.
    The two wars are pretty unrelated. In 91 Iraq invaded a sovereign country and US ally. The UN told Saddam to get out, he didn't get out, and the UN went to oust him behind mostly Americans.

    And no, the current Iraq war didn't turn into a matter of oil. I mean, if you have some sort of source to back that up maybe, but it's usually just bantering from people that don't know what's going on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey5150 View Post
    Well they are both against the same enemy. and after a period of time the Iraq war did turn into a matter of oil and not just to find WOMD.
    So the Hundred Years War and the Napoleonic War was the same?

    They were both against the same enemy of the British.
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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Theoretically, probably not. The Iraqi army was very large but utterly incompetent. The British and French contributions alone, albeit vastly smaller than the US contribution, would still have defeated the Iraqis I guess, though it would have been a much more time-consuming and difficult job without the US. Of course no one, or very few expected the war to be as much of a walk in the park as it turned out to be, and Britain and France would certainly not have tried to engage a force the size of the Iraqi army alone.

    Iraq invaded a sovereign state, a dictatorship invading a dictatorship but still. As for Iraq threatening global oil supply, I don't think things would have turned out that way. The global price of oil might have gone somewhat up though, and I believe there was serious concern at the time, that the Iraqis would have invaded Saudi-Arabia next if they weren't taught a lesson. I have no idea whether these concerns were justified or not. With control of Kuwait and its oil reserves, they would probably have exported their newly stolen oil-reserves. All in all though, while it is fully possible that the US involvement wasn't necessary, in theory. I can't realistically see any other way of getting the Iraqis out of Kuwait. That being said, in a global perspective; Iraq annexing Kuwait might not have changed things that much. But the war was justified.
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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Look, all I'm saying is that I believe the Gulf was a miniature version of Vietnam. Quite honestly, there was no reason for America to enter the conflict (other than money) and I feel the same way towards the Iraq war towards the 2006-2009 years of the war, but thats a different thread.
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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey5150 View Post
    Look, all I'm saying is that I believe the Gulf was a miniature version of Vietnam. Quite honestly, there was no reason for America to enter the conflict (other than money) and I feel the same way towards the Iraq war towards the 2006-2009 years of the war, but thats a different thread.
    How about the Iraqi Invasion of a Kuwait, another nation asking for US help (Saudi Arabia), and a UN resolution agreed to by both the Soviet Union (You know the greatest enemy of the US) and China...

    Oh and it contained troops from:

    The US
    Saudi Arabia
    UK
    France
    Pakistan
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    Poland
    Egypt
    Syria (Not exactly a US ally)
    Morocco
    Kuwait
    Oman
    UAE
    Qatar
    Bahrain
    Czechoslovakia
    Canada
    Italy
    Australia
    Netherlands
    Spain
    Belgium
    Bangladesh
    Afghanistan (Then a Soviet puppet)
    Argentina
    New Zealand
    Greece
    Denmark
    Hungary
    Norway
    South Korea
    The Philippines
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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey5150 View Post
    Look, all I'm saying is that I believe the Gulf was a miniature version of Vietnam. Quite honestly, there was no reason for America to enter the conflict (other than money) and I feel the same way towards the Iraq war towards the 2006-2009 years of the war, but thats a different thread.

    Every single time you state your opinion your original question/argument becomes even more diluted and befuddled.

    If you're going to try and make a point don't jump to other wars, use Michael Moore's films as justifications, and/or say that the Iraq War is another Vietnam without having some good facts to back your claim up.

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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey5150 View Post
    Look, all I'm saying is that I believe the Gulf was a miniature version of Vietnam.
    Huh? The Kuwait war was a decisive victory and managed to oust Iraqi control over Kuwait, Saddam threatened vital oil supplies as well as disrespecting the sovereignty of an ally (as was stated before) it ended in several months and was all at the head of a United Nations banner.

    The Vietnam war was a proxy war governed by the Truman Doctrine and the Domino Effect theory in an attempt to stop the growth of communism to the whole of Vietnam and as was thought "to stop it from spreading to the rest of South East Asia"

    And Michael Moore's films tend to leave out many facts that would make rather fair instead of one sided as many of his other films.
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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey5150
    Look, all I'm saying is that I believe the Gulf was a miniature version of Vietnam.
    I stopped reading here.

    There is, was, and can be, no comparison whatsoever between the Gulf War and the epic fail that was Vietnam.

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    I'm confused by the OP....we didn't really exactly get bogged down in the gulf war, sure, there were alot of enemy, just like vietnam..but you know we kind of blew them all to bits and pieces....and umm...we had a long list of allies helping us?...and the war kind of like you know, ended before i can finish ending my sentence...

    Me thinks the OP needs to sleep it off or something seriously...Saying the Gulf war was like vietnam is kind of the epitome of oh snap i've been ODing on something probably...

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    Default Re: Was the Us involvement in the Gulf War necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guide View Post
    Huh?
    I meant as in it was not a war that the American people more or less supported.


    Quote Originally Posted by Space Wolves View Post
    I'm confused by the OP....we didn't really exactly get bogged down in the gulf war, sure, there were alot of enemy, just like vietnam..but you know we kind of blew them all to bits and pieces....and umm...we had a long list of allies helping us?...and the war kind of like you know, ended before i can finish ending my sentence...

    Me thinks the OP needs to sleep it off or something seriously...Saying the Gulf war was like vietnam is kind of the epitome of oh snap i've been ODing on something probably...
    Man, just delete the damn thread then. It seems that people ALWAYS have a problem with each and every thread I make.

    Have you guys ever thought that sometimes these threads are made to clarify things on the topic? I made this so I could understand the REAL facts and finding out if my facts were wrong and apparently they are. but you dont have to ridicule about it like the facepalm.

    and sorry for getting so off topic, but damn.
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