Well, what do you think?
I think it isn't, mostly because it seems that the involvement was only intended for protecting the USA's assets in Kuwait. and at the time (Or maybe the more recent Iraq War) the conflict seemed a tad unecessary.
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Well, what do you think?
I think it isn't, mostly because it seems that the involvement was only intended for protecting the USA's assets in Kuwait. and at the time (Or maybe the more recent Iraq War) the conflict seemed a tad unecessary.
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Considering Iraq invaded a foreign country and was put in a position to further threaten the world's oil supply, then I'd say yes, the Coalition was justified.
Well there are other countries and areas that have major oil resources like Russia (At the time) Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and the Gulf of Mexico.
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Yet they are all critical to ensuring the global supply and global prices.
Fine, then explain the reason for the Iraq war. 9/11 doesn't count because that was caused by Al Qaeda, not one certain country.
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That's a different war and a different thread.
Huh It doesn't happen without the US
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The two wars are pretty unrelated. In 91 Iraq invaded a sovereign country and US ally. The UN told Saddam to get out, he didn't get out, and the UN went to oust him behind mostly Americans.
And no, the current Iraq war didn't turn into a matter of oil. I mean, if you have some sort of source to back that up maybe, but it's usually just bantering from people that don't know what's going on there.
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Theoretically, probably not. The Iraqi army was very large but utterly incompetent. The British and French contributions alone, albeit vastly smaller than the US contribution, would still have defeated the Iraqis I guess, though it would have been a much more time-consuming and difficult job without the US. Of course no one, or very few expected the war to be as much of a walk in the park as it turned out to be, and Britain and France would certainly not have tried to engage a force the size of the Iraqi army alone.
Iraq invaded a sovereign state, a dictatorship invading a dictatorship but still. As for Iraq threatening global oil supply, I don't think things would have turned out that way. The global price of oil might have gone somewhat up though, and I believe there was serious concern at the time, that the Iraqis would have invaded Saudi-Arabia next if they weren't taught a lesson. I have no idea whether these concerns were justified or not. With control of Kuwait and its oil reserves, they would probably have exported their newly stolen oil-reserves. All in all though, while it is fully possible that the US involvement wasn't necessary, in theory. I can't realistically see any other way of getting the Iraqis out of Kuwait. That being said, in a global perspective; Iraq annexing Kuwait might not have changed things that much. But the war was justified.
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Look, all I'm saying is that I believe the Gulf was a miniature version of Vietnam. Quite honestly, there was no reason for America to enter the conflict (other than money) and I feel the same way towards the Iraq war towards the 2006-2009 years of the war, but thats a different thread.
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How about the Iraqi Invasion of a Kuwait, another nation asking for US help (Saudi Arabia), and a UN resolution agreed to by both the Soviet Union (You know the greatest enemy of the US) and China...
Oh and it contained troops from:
The US
Saudi Arabia
UK
France
Pakistan
Niger
Senegal
Poland
Egypt
Syria (Not exactly a US ally)
Morocco
Kuwait
Oman
UAE
Qatar
Bahrain
Czechoslovakia
Canada
Italy
Australia
Netherlands
Spain
Belgium
Bangladesh
Afghanistan (Then a Soviet puppet)
Argentina
New Zealand
Greece
Denmark
Hungary
Norway
South Korea
The Philippines
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Every single time you state your opinion your original question/argument becomes even more diluted and befuddled.
If you're going to try and make a point don't jump to other wars, use Michael Moore's films as justifications, and/or say that the Iraq War is another Vietnam without having some good facts to back your claim up.
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Huh? The Kuwait war was a decisive victory and managed to oust Iraqi control over Kuwait, Saddam threatened vital oil supplies as well as disrespecting the sovereignty of an ally (as was stated before) it ended in several months and was all at the head of a United Nations banner.
The Vietnam war was a proxy war governed by the Truman Doctrine and the Domino Effect theory in an attempt to stop the growth of communism to the whole of Vietnam and as was thought "to stop it from spreading to the rest of South East Asia"
And Michael Moore's films tend to leave out many facts that would make rather fair instead of one sided as many of his other films.
I'm confused by the OP....we didn't really exactly get bogged down in the gulf war, sure, there were alot of enemy, just like vietnam..but you know we kind of blew them all to bits and pieces....and umm...we had a long list of allies helping us?...and the war kind of like you know, ended before i can finish ending my sentence...
Me thinks the OP needs to sleep it off or something seriously...Saying the Gulf war was like vietnam is kind of the epitome of oh snap i've been ODing on something probably...
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I meant as in it was not a war that the American people more or less supported.
Man, just delete the damn thread then. It seems that people ALWAYS have a problem with each and every thread I make.
Have you guys ever thought that sometimes these threads are made to clarify things on the topic? I made this so I could understand the REAL facts and finding out if my facts were wrong and apparently they are. but you dont have to ridicule about it like the facepalm.
and sorry for getting so off topic, but damn.
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