ReallyBadAI Battle System +Hardcore +Settlements v5.7 >Oct 17< ### New Imladris AI ### incl. Battle AI and Content Switcher

[hippacrocafish]

Your log shows nothing useful, you need to change it to "trace" so it shows all the details.

Change what to "Trace"?

[Stylix]

Change what to "Trace"?

Edit your TATW.cfg file to reflect this code:

[log]
to = logs/system.log.txt
level = * trace
;level = * error

Notice that the semi-colon has moved. Everything after a semi-colon is ignored in the world of M2TW. This will produce a more detailed, and larger, log report.

[hippacrocafish]

Edit your TATW.cfg file to reflect this code:

[log]
to = logs/system.log.txt
level = * trace
;level = * error

Notice that the semi-colon has moved. Everything after a semi-colon is ignored in the world of M2TW. This will produce a more detailed, and larger, log report.

Alrighty, will do.

Just for good measure I looked for the Huntsmen entry in in modeldb (I think it's modeldb anyway. >_>) to see what it looked like.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

8 huntsmen
1 4
57 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/english_huntsmen_lod0.mesh 121
57 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/english_huntsmen_lod0.mesh 900
57 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/english_huntsmen_lod0.mesh 2500
57 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/english_huntsmen_lod0.mesh 6400
2
5 slave
64 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/textures/english_huntsmen.texture
71 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/textures/english_huntsmen_normal.texture
41 unit_sprites/spain_Almughavars_sprite.spr
4 merc
64 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/textures/english_huntsmen.texture
71 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/textures/english_huntsmen_normal.texture
41 unit_sprites/spain_Almughavars_sprite.spr
2
5 slave
68 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/textures/attachments_huntsmen.texture
75 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/textures/attachments_huntsmen_normal.texture 0
4 merc
68 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/textures/attachments_huntsmen.texture
75 unit_models/_Units/anglo-saxon/textures/attachments_huntsmen_normal.texture 0
1
4 None
17 MTW2_Fast_Javelin
18 MTW2_Fast_Knifeman 2
20 MTW2_Javelin_primary
14 fs_test_shield 2
18 MTW2_Knife_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

EDIT: Here's the error log with the trace enabled.

EDIT 2: Tried an Eriador campaign, fought rebel Huntsmen, no crash. :l

[Germanicu5]

New AI (v5.7) is out, what's most important it eliminates reinforcements CTD issue that existed due to a typo in recent versions of RBAI. Everything works fine now.

Regards

[Pleiades]

New AI (v5.7) is out, what's most important it eliminates reinforcements CTD issue that existed due to a typo in recent versions of RBAI. Everything works fine now.

Regards

You are alive! How nice of you!

[Chernish]

New AI (v5.7) is out, what's most important it eliminates reinforcements CTD issue that existed due to a typo in recent versions of RBAI. Everything works fine now.

Regards

Exellent news!
Thank you !!!!

[ElvenKind]

Great news G5!

[MIKE GOLF]

Looking forward to this addition here. The battles in MOS are very well done because of your scripts.

[Chainsaw Schmalz]

Fantastic! I've been a quiet fan of your work for a while now, it really makes MTW2 mods come to life.

[Araval]

Welcome back

[Germanicu5]

Thank you for the warm welcome, hopefully I can find some time for TATW projects that have been on hold for a while.

Regards

[DaVinci]

Thanks for the update.

Fantastic would be an extract of the code-lines, which had these typos (marked, ie. bold or red). I would like to manually correct it in the former version.

[paradamed]

Thanks for the update.

Fantastic would be an extract of the code-lines, which had these typos (marked, ie. bold or red). I would like to manually correct it in the former version.

Just replace everything with the files. There are plug and play files with all the necessary files from the major mods in specific folders in the tool G5 posted. Just need to copy paste and only a few entries need to be added manually. It is very easy. At first I got confused too because I havent noticed the files were all there (at least for some mods).

[beermugcarl]

this fixed the issue where ai generals suicide charged but it seems they are doing it again. is this a localized issue? is there a line i can change to make them keep them in reserves?

[DaVinci]

Just replace everything with the files. There are plug and play files with all the necessary files from the major mods in specific folders in the tool G5 posted. Just need to copy paste and only a few entries need to be added manually. It is very easy. At first I got confused too because I havent noticed the files were all there (at least for some mods).

Well thanks for hints. I want solely the typos fixed which cause the known reinforcement bug, i wanna do it within my TATW submod file structure, because scripting is changed a lot there.

[Pleiades]

G5, have you found somewhere how vanilla MTW2 battle difficulty influence morale and fatigue of AI and player?

Did you over your mod changed that in any way?

Those are two questions.

Comment: I found over 200 totally opposite posts from 2006 until 2012 with claimed 1000 custom and campaign individual battle tests with totally opposite results how battle difficulty influence realism of battle and there is no official CA explanation except that "on VH battles are most realistic". Someone even reported that there is morale bug and that battles on E are harder than on VH because units routs much slower on E because of bug.

[Germanicu5]

Fatigue should in theory influence player more than AI on VH, but I'd need to do specific tests again, because I can barely remember what my results were 3 years ago.

Thanks for the update.

Fantastic would be an extract of the code-lines, which had these typos (marked, ie. bold or red). I would like to manually correct it in the former version.

I'm forgetful, this (0 changed to 1):

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

if I_CompareCounter launch_alliance_1 = 1
and I_CompareCounter army4_reinf_allied = 1

;;;Army 2
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u1
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u2
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u3
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u4
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u5
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u6
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u7
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u8
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u9
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u10
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u11
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u12
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u13
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u14
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u15
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u16
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u17
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u18
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u19
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u20

Also do this to avoid scripts turning off if you play more than 1 battle during player's turn:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

monitor_event ScrollOpened ScrollOpened post_battle_scroll

;;;;;;;
set_counter fire_labels 0
; set_counter panel_check 0

Regards

[Pleiades]

Thank you very much!

Now, about morale and fatigue, back in Rome there were many complaints of players that artificial boost of morale on VH makes battles ridiculous and very unfair (again that Praetorian against Peasant famous example), so CA promised in advance before releasing MTW2 that "conditions will be equal in MTW on H and VH for both player and AI, but AI will be smarter". Well, we saw how AI is smarter. But now that you finally put some sense into battles and when generals do not suicide so easily, now it is quite possible that battles are realistically more challenging on lower difficulties, if morale and fatigue are equal on each difficulty level.

So, morale and fatigue are next theme for improved battle realism. The greater AI has morale and fatigue capacity, the slower it will spend it.

Off topic, I installed today old MTW just to see nostalgia battle and campaign. I was utterly and brutally defeated in my first battle. My English king with 30 horsemen, my urban militia with 60 men, my peasants with 100 men, my archer unit of 60 versus 3 Welsh longbowmen unit of 60 each. First those longbowmen were hiding in the woods on the hill, then they jumped out of the woods, killed my king and his 30 horsemen just like that, killed the rest of my army and reminded me why I started to play TW on the first place 10 years ago. And it was on normal level! Oh, longbowmen laughed at my attempted charge "from the rear" and made me helpless baby cause they rotated faster than my "I will sneak behind their back and charge". And all those bowmen were in harmony, not a single one was curious about smell of flowers for his girlfriend back at home (usual RTW and MTW2 pathfinding issues). Too bad my eyes hurt cause of old resolution on widescreen monitor or else it wouldn't take me long to come back.

Then I saw vote on Shogun 2 forum, vote for battle and campaign AI and veteran players gave them mark between 1 and 3 of 5 both for camp AI and battle AI, but still "it is slight improvement over the ETW and NTW" They also gave 5 of 5 for marketing and hype. Maybe Rome 2 will bring us back MTW AI?

[DaVinci]

snip



I'm forgetful, this (0 changed to 1):

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

if I_CompareCounter launch_alliance_1 = 1
and I_CompareCounter army4_reinf_allied = 1

;;;Army 2
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u1
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u2
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u3
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u4
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u5
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u6
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u7
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u8
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u9
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u10
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u11
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u12
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u13
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u14
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u15
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u16
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u17
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u18
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u19
ai_gta_add_unit_label 1 G5_OBJECTIVE a2u20

Also do this to avoid scripts turning off if you play more than 1 battle during player's turn:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

monitor_event ScrollOpened ScrollOpened post_battle_scroll

;;;;;;;
set_counter fire_labels 0
; set_counter panel_check 0

Regards

That's nice, G5, thanks

[beermugcarl]

the reason i asked about the suicidal generals is because i was playing using this ai on my own mod and every time the ai got reinforcements the general of the reinforcements came charging across the map into my archers and then got swamped by spear militia and that may not be called suicidal but i damn well think so