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    posted in wrong forum, can someone move this to the pitts?

    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/16-banned-from-britain-named-and-shamed-1679127.html
    Sixteen people banned from entering the UK were "named and shamed" by the Home Office today.


    Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said she decided to make public the names of 16 people banned since October so others could better understand what sort of behaviour Britain was not prepared to tolerate.

    The list includes hate preachers, anti-gay protesters and a far- right US talk show host.

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    "I think it's important that people understand the sorts of values and sorts of standards that we have here, the fact that it's a privilege to come and the sort of things that mean you won't be welcome in this country," Ms Smith told GMTV.

    "Coming to this country is a privilege. If you can't live by the rules that we live by, the standards and the values that we live by, we should exclude you from this country and, what's more, now we will make public those people that we have excluded.

    "We are publishing the names of 16 of those that we have excluded since October. We are telling people who they are and why it is we don't want them in this country."

    She said the number of people excluded from Britain had risen from an average of two a month to five a month since October.


    The list of the 16 "least wanted" includes radio talk show host Michael Savage, real name Michael Weiner.

    "This is someone who has fallen into the category of fomenting hatred, of such extreme views and expressing them in such a way that it is actually likely to cause inter-community tension or even violence if that person were allowed into the country," Ms Smith told BBC Breakfast.

    Also named are American Baptist pastor Fred Waldron Phelps Snr and his daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper, who have picketed the funerals of Aids victims and claimed the deaths of US soldiers are a punishment for US tolerance of homosexuality.

    "If people have so clearly overstepped the mark in terms of the way not just that they are talking but the sort of attitudes that they are expressing to the extent that we think that this is likely to cause or have the potential to cause violence or inter-community tension in this country, then actually I think the right thing is not to let them into the country in the first place. Not to open the stable door then try to close it later," Ms Smith said.

    "It's a privilege to come to this country. There are certain behaviours that mean you forfeit that privilege."

    Hamas MP Yunis Al-Astal, Jewish extremist Mike Guzovsky, former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard Stephen Donald Black and neo-Nazi Erich Gliebe are also on the list released today.

    Artur Ryno and Pavel Skachevsky, the former leaders of a violent Russian skinhead gang which committed 20 racially motivated murders, are also banned from coming to Britain. Both are currently in prison.

    Making up the rest of the 16 named by the Home Office today are preachers Wadgy Abd El Hamied Mohamed Ghoneim, Abdullah Qadri Al Ahdal, Safwat Hijazi and Amir Siddique, Muslim activist Abdul Ali Musa (previously Clarence Reams), murderer and Hezbollah terrorist Samir Al Quntar and Kashmiri terror group leader Nasr Javed.
    Now I hate Savage, I hate his radio show, I think it's boring and much of it just flat out crazy. The guy is a radical and a douche bag and I hate his protectionism garbage. But banning him from the UK? WHat the hell is that going to do? Big deal he can't visit, so now what?
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    I think its all revenge for the US barring Yusuf Islam (aka Cat Stevens) entry back in 2004.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boer View Post
    I think its all revenge for the US barring Yusuf Islam (aka Cat Stevens) entry back in 2004.
    Doubtful especially when that came about due to similar names by all accounts, the name of on the list was Youssef Islam not Yusuf Islam so it was more a screwup by someone. Even Stevens said he believed it was just a mix up since they asked him repeatly how he spelled his name.

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    No, the man is just a cock who has no purpose but to spread cock and bull shite. Meh, I'm just happy all the radical Imams have been banned. But I see the MCB changed its tune again, it was all for banning Wilders...

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    ahhhh Micheal savage if you ever wanted a example of why the majority of talk radio is nothing more then shock jocks replacing sexual innuendo with one sided political commentary its him.
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    In June 2008, Savage claimed that the increasing rate of autism diagnoses was the result of "a racket" designed to get disability payments for "poorer families who have found a new way to be parasites on the government."[55] He returned to the subject on his July 16, 2008 show with the following remarks:

    “ Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."

    What a .

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    he is popular for a reason, although I personally can't stand him. I think he is worse then rush. Glenn beck is much better for talk radio.

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    He is the antichrist.

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    The only reason I ever listened to Savage was because he grew up close to where I spent my high school days and could relate in his little anecdotes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    The only reason I ever listened to Savage was because he grew up close to where I spent my high school days and could relate in his little anecdotes.
    That and he at least isn't afraid to give his opinion, as crazy as some of his opinions are. On occasion he is actually pretty entertaining.

    I probably agree with him 55% of the time. But that's pretty much across the board when it comes to political commentary.

    I think a lot of his critics are way too quick to exaggerate. He has never advocated half of the stuff I have read in this topic alone. I mean where are people getting, "deport all Muslims?" Never heard him say anything close to that.

    This whole thing is stupid, banning Savage just makes the UK look ridiculous from where I am standing. Its not like we ban British political commentators should we disagree with them.
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    Was he going to be a BNP keynote speaker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Was he going to be a BNP keynote speaker?
    I didnt know he was a white supremacist, quote please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle_mole View Post
    I didnt know he was a white supremacist, quote please.
    n early November 2007, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has called on radio listeners to contact companies that advertise on Savage's program to express their concerns about what they deemed as anti-Muslim bigotry. Savage was quoted as saying, Muslims, "need deportation"; and that adherents of Islam would do well to “take your religion and shove it up your behind” because "I’m sick of you."[47]

    Its from wiki, no idea if its true, don't care though, was just making a joke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    n early November 2007, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has called on radio listeners to contact companies that advertise on Savage's program to express their concerns about what they deemed as anti-Muslim bigotry. Savage was quoted as saying, Muslims, "need deportation"; and that adherents of Islam would do well to “take your religion and shove it up your behind” because "I’m sick of you."[47]

    Its from wiki, no idea if its true, don't care though, was just making a joke
    I think CAIR needs to be banned a lot sooner than this guy...
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    I've never cared to listen to the guy, but this is stupid to ban a guy because of his political beliefs. What ever happened to freedom of speech?


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    For a second there, I thought Britain had barred the entry of New Zealand's war-time (WWII) Prime Minister from entering Britain, but then I thought about it.

    I'm guessing it's this man
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael...ntator)#Autism

    Good job banning him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alakasam View Post
    For a second there, I thought Britain had barred the entry of New Zealand's war-time (WWII) Prime Minister from entering Britain, but then I thought about it.

    I'm guessing it's this man
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael...ntator)#Autism

    Good job banning him
    Why ban an old man who's mostly concerned with why he's not #1 on the radio? After all, he's a PhD, and prior to his radio days, he was an epidemiologist. He seems to hate all the other radio talk show hosts, like Rush (whom he calls "the Golfer"), and Hannity (whom he calls "the Leprechaun").

    Now that Britain knows who he is, it may have the opposite effect the government intended. His show doesn't play in Britain, but people can get it streamed over the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    posted in wrong forum, can someone move this to the pitts?



    Now I hate Savage, I hate his radio show, I think it's boring and much of it just flat out crazy. The guy is a radical and a douche bag and I hate his protectionism garbage. But banning him from the UK? WHat the hell is that going to do? Big deal he can't visit, so now what?
    This is just another item on what is becoming a long list of reasons why Labor has overstayed it's welcome as the governing party in the UK.
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    AFAIK Britain has a pretty long history of barring unwanted persons from entering. If this fellow is as bad as some of the others who have been barred from entering, I don't see how it can come as such a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visna View Post
    AFAIK Britain has a pretty long history of barring unwanted persons from entering. If this fellow is as bad as some of the others who have been barred from entering, I don't see how it can come as such a surprise.
    Define "bad"? He is just a really lame talk radio host.

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