Mutiny in the Georgian Army

[Oklop]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8033366.stm

I have to admit that I never expected something like this. Unrest over dissatisfaction with Saakashvili from the people yes, but outright mutiny from army unit one day before NATO manuvers?

[BlackPirate]

The mutiny is going to be crashed

[Treize]

Georgia's internal problems will let it fall apart I suppose...
Good for Russia, good for us as Georgia will not enter NATO nor EU...

[husker9.2]

Georgia's internal problems will let it fall apart I suppose...
Good for Russia, good for us as Georgia will not enter NATO nor EU...

So what you are getting at is That you want Russia to annex Georgia? Not trying to pick a fight or anything just wondering because the U.N. and every regional power including U.S. won't stand for it. The Mutiny may hurt their chances to get into EU but it will only increase their odds of getting into NATO now that their weaker.

[Panzerbear]

So what you are getting at is That you want Russia to annex Georgia?

so you have already convinced yourself that Russia is tryign to annex Georgia? wow.

The Mutiny may hurt their chances to get into EU but it will only increase their odds of getting into NATO now that their weaker.

they cant join NATO by definition, because they have border disputes with their neighbors. also I highly doubt that many NATO members would sleep and dream of inviting a lunatic into their family.

[husker9.2]

so you have already convinced yourself that Russia is tryign to annex Georgia? wow. they cant join NATO by definition, because they have border disputes with their neighbors. also I highly doubt that many NATO members would sleep and dream of inviting a lunatic into their family.

NATO will accept them in just to counter Russian intrests in the area. and knowing the way the U.S. and her allies play politics we will happily bend the rules of our own organization to allow them in just to rain on Russia's parade.

So don't rule them out mate.

NATO is the U.S. and Britains tea party. we do as we please and the others are just in the organization for protection more than anything.

[Carach]

as i posted in the 'russians move closer to georgian capital' thread - its a remarkable coincidence.. (aka, it isnt).

military excercises and military buildup just prior to their 'intervention' in abkhazia and South Ossetia...now their deployment further outside of the agreements made in the ceasefire, further breaking international law, just prior to this 'mutiny' - a thinly veiled attempt at a coup.

Russia play their politics pretty well i give them that. Georgia's been in a pretty untenable position since it was invaded by the Russians the other month..

[Dr. Croccer]

as i posted in the 'russians move closer to georgian capital' thread - its a remarkable coincidence.. (aka, it isnt).

military excercises and military buildup just prior to their 'intervention' in abkhazia and South Ossetia...now their deployment further outside of the agreements made in the ceasefire, further breaking international law, just prior to this 'mutiny' - a thinly veiled attempt at a coup.

Russia play their politics pretty well i give them that. Georgia's been in a pretty untenable position since it was invaded by the Russians the other month..

Talk about looking into it too deeply.

[Treize]

Maybe the NATO forces will help tie-eater out?

[Digbert]

Maybe the NATO forces will help tie-eater out?

LOL I forgot about that tie-eating thing

[dantragic]

Yeh I've just read it in the german press.


TBH I don't know what to think. As usual Georgia blames Russia for this, but then again Russia can't have an interest in a militaristic Government in Georgia. That would just set more fire in that region.

I agree that Saakaschwili needs to be junked, but not this way. I don't even know how much truth is in this news since it's coming directly from the Georgian Government.

[Carach]

As usual Georgia blames Russia for this

and 9/10 when Russia denies any involvement or wrongdoing, it turns out that Georgia was in fact telling the truth. (i could go through countless examples from prior to their recent hostilities, during, and after..)

so i know who im going to be leaning towards. (guess we will have the russian possy come on and start calling me a deluded anti russian blah blah blah at some point during the course of the day..)

[Panzerbear]

and 9/10 when Russia denies any involvement or wrongdoing, it turns out that Georgia was in fact telling the truth. (i could go through countless examples from prior to their recent hostilities, during, and after..)

by all means, humor us all, and provide such examples. was it the "Russian tanks are moving towards Tbilisi" part or was it the "our radars see 30 Russian bombers flying to Tbilisi" part?

OT: I feel very bad for Georgian people, they have the most inadequate president in the entire Asia.

[justicar5]

by all means, humor us all, and provide such examples. was it the "Russian tanks are moving towards Tbilisi" part or was it the "our radars see 30 Russian bombers flying to Tbilisi" part?

OT: I feel very bad for Georgian people, they have the most inadequate president in the entire Asia.

yea, they should tell both Russia and NATO to back off and resolve the south osetia situation peacefully.

[Carach]

yea, they should tell both Russia and NATO to back off and resolve the south osetia situation peacefully.

now that would work if not for a major hitch. Russia doesnt respect the Georgian borders and has no intention of allowing compromise.

[Oklop]

So did I got it right, a whole tank battalion mutinied? And I will wait a while before blaming Russia, as I do not believe that Georgia knows about Russian involvement already but did not know that mutiny is brewing.

[Treize]

But a tank batalion is just a number of tanks and drivers, right?
No mechanisted infantry, right?

Still it's probably 25-50% of there tanks.

[Oklop]

I think so IPA. Still for a whole unit to mutiny takes some serious organization I believe.

[Treize]

To recieve support from all troops, yes.

Maybe we will see soviet tank warfare in soviet forests
Georgia only has some T-72's, right?
*goes to wiki*
EDIT:
157 T-72's and 55 T-55's (LOL).
Probably less then 25%...

[Oklop]

But did they not lost most of the tanks in the war? Also I thought that armored units were professionals. Are they?