Free energy conspiracy advocates get fresh material

[Denny Crane!]

A number of interesting things in this following link.

One is the site I link to is ran by energy professionals who are interested in new sources of energy and efficiency improvements to do with existing sources.

They often post things about supposed free energy, analyse them and frequently dismiss them. One has even gone so far as to offer a reward as well as various avenues to bypass the supposed threat towards someone who comes up with a new source of potentially limitless free energy.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:_MYL...n's_Design

Which is why this is interesting, it is not getting easily dismissed and there was a case of the imfamous men in black incidents.

I don't actually believe that anything like this will ever come to fruition but that oil will be replaced with a variety of efficiency improvements and massively improved 2nd generation biofuels/solar/geothermal/nuclear and who knows what else. But it is interesting watching things like this develop.

edit: I did read that the energy could be coming from the power needed to remagnetise the magnets involved.

[Rhaegar1]

I couldn't really make out so fast what this person exactly is claiming, to have invented an alternative way of rotating some thing with the help of magnets (which is farfetched but ok) or that he makes energy out of nothing (which is ridiculous)

I can agree with persons that believe our phyisical laws are not complete and it there might be situations where they won't be correct anymore but they are IMO a very good approximation of the situation we are living in. Just like classical mechanics are true untill you reach relativistic speeds where clearly different rules apply/the approximation is not correct anymore.

Therefore I will never believe that someone in he; s backyard garage will be able to prove one of our convential laws is wrong because you won't be able to reproduce the extreme situations where they might not apply.

[Baron von Sky Hat]

Doesn't the fact that he said that he needed to `recharge'/remagnetise the component magnets completely invalidate any idea that it could be free energy anyway?
That's completely regardless of all of the physics that says that free energy is, at very very best, extremely implausible, and more likely impossible. So whatever you believe about free-energy, (of which there is an awful lot of debate, it seems, despite how unlikely free-energy is, and that no one seems to have come up with any major physics to suggest it's possible) surely this debunks itself?
Or have I misunderstood what you/he are/is saying?

[Denny Crane!]

Apparently he doesn't need to remagnetise them according to the latest updates.

I'm not sure where the energy comes from but as I say the site is fairly skeptical and only recently debunked someone (who I believe threatened a lawsuit) by pointing out how ludicrous the supporting evidence was (photo showed a wire incapable of carrying stated power) along with a few other things.

Science not being my forte I can only watch with interest and let more educated people battle it out, though obviously I do know the laws of thermodynamics are rock solid at present and some alternative explanation for its power genereation needs to be found if at all possible and this isn't yet another hoax like Steorn.

[Rhaegar1]

It's a wise man who knows he's limits so let me say on my turn that allthough science seems to be my forte (master student applied physics) I'm not that good a debater (not helped by a limited knowledge of proper english). But I've never encountered a serious pyisicist who didn't rejected the notion of free energy as ridiculous, not only because it goes against every conventional scientific law but also against logical thinking. (allthough I know of one exception in thermodynamics where it should be possible that a system 'borrows' some energy from nothing for a very, very short time before it is required to give it back.)

IMO are most of these free energy researchers as wel as self proclaimed researchers in cold fussion and things like that people who allthough they are enthousiastic and perhaps even talented in physics lack a proper education and therefore miss a solid 'ground' needed to be able to draw right conclusions out of a measurement.