Trolls

[Hallow]

Can someone please post instructions on how to remove trolls from the game or make their defensive stats lower. Yes I know there is a couple of balancing mods that does this but they also change other htings I would like to keep as they are Thank you.

[Apostle Zodd]

Edit Mods/Third_age/Data/export_descr_unit.txt

[Hallow]

Thank you

[Hallow]

could you be even more helpful and tell me what to edit in that?

type Mountain Trolls
dictionary Mountain_Trolls ; Mountain Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 5, 0, 20.0
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, free_upkeep_unit
formation 5.0, 5.0, 8.0, 8.0, 1, square
stat_health 6, 0
stat_pri 34, 10, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 15, 20, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 16, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1160, 350, 75, 75, 1160, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models mountain_trolls
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 15


type Battle Trolls
dictionary Battle_Trolls ; Battle Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier battle_trolls, 5, 0, 25.0
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, free_upkeep_unit
formation 5.0, 5.0, 8.0, 8.0, 1, square
stat_health 6, 0
stat_pri 38, 12, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 20, 24, 0, metal ;28, 20, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 20, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1500, 420, 75, 75, 1500, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models battle_trolls
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 20



Thats the code for mountain trolls and battle trolls

Just hypotheticly say I would want to half their defensive stats, what would I edit?

[Apostle Zodd]

could you be even more helpful and tell me what to edit in that?

type Mountain Trolls
dictionary Mountain_Trolls ; Mountain Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 5, 0, 20.0
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, free_upkeep_unit
formation 5.0, 5.0, 8.0, 8.0, 1, square
stat_health 6, 0
stat_pri 34, 10, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 15, 20, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 16, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1160, 350, 75, 75, 1160, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models mountain_trolls
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 15

Thats the code for mountain trolls and battle trolls

6 is hitpoints, it is really the main thing that makes them tuff. i would only suggest(even though i feel 6 is fine) that you only go as low as 5, other wise they are really really weak

The next line is your Stat Armor, this detirmines the actual amount

stat_pri_armour 15, 20, 0, flesh
first number set is armor points

stat_pri_armour15, 20, 0, flesh
Second set is defencive skill points(this is probally what you should edit)

stat_pri_armour15, 20, 0, flesh
Third set is shield point value, dont mess with it since they have no shields.

if you need to look up what is what, there is text at the top explaining everything you need to know when editing the EDU

[Hallow]

Thank you VERY much Extremely helpful, ill try to +rep you

I repped you both

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

could you be even more helpful and tell me what to edit in that?

type Mountain Trolls
dictionary Mountain_Trolls ; Mountain Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 5, 0, 20.0
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, free_upkeep_unit
formation 5.0, 5.0, 8.0, 8.0, 1, square
stat_health 6, 0
stat_pri 34, 10, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 15, 20, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 16, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1160, 350, 75, 75, 1160, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models mountain_trolls
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 15


type Battle Trolls
dictionary Battle_Trolls ; Battle Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier battle_trolls, 5, 0, 25.0
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, free_upkeep_unit
formation 5.0, 5.0, 8.0, 8.0, 1, square
stat_health 6, 0
stat_pri 38, 12, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 20, 24, 0, metal ;28, 20, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 20, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1500, 420, 75, 75, 1500, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models battle_trolls
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 20



Thats the code for mountain trolls and battle trolls

Just hypotheticly say I would want to half their defensive stats, what would I edit?

type Mountain Trolls
dictionary Mountain_Trolls ; Mountain Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier mountain_trolls, 5, 0, 20.0
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, free_upkeep_unit
formation 5.0, 5.0, 8.0, 8.0, 1, square
stat_health 6, 0
stat_pri 34, 10, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 15, 20, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 16, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1160, 350, 75, 75, 1160, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models mountain_trolls
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 15


type Battle Trolls
dictionary Battle_Trolls ; Battle Trolls
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier battle_trolls, 5, 0, 25.0
attributes sea_faring, can_withdraw, frighten_foot, free_upkeep_unit
formation 5.0, 5.0, 8.0, 8.0, 1, square
stat_health 6, 0
stat_pri 38, 12, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, blunt, mace, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr area, launching
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 20, 24, 0, metal ;28, 20, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 1, -1, 2, 1
stat_mental 20, impetuous, trained, lock_morale
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1500, 420, 75, 75, 1500, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 3
armour_ug_models battle_trolls
ownership england
era 0 england
era 1 england
era 2 england
recruit_priority_offset 20


edit: He beat me too it and went more in depth + rep

[Valiant Champion]

Just by removing lock_morale should solve a lot of the problem.

[BanditKS]

Check my mod out it cuts them by 50% attack and defense.

[Achilla]

Poor trolls ... leave the trolls alone, omg!

[BanditKS]

Poor trolls ... leave the trolls alone, omg!

you don't have to download the mod if you don't agree with it. lol

[Achilla]

you don't have to download the mod if you don't agree with it. lol

No, I'm just stating what I think about people's general attitude towards nerfing poor trolls on every occasion ;s I'm yet to see a mod that buffs them, lol

[Ahlerich]

Poor trolls ... leave the trolls alone, omg!

peeking through your neigbours bedroom window is wrong

[Achilla]

peeking through your neigbours bedroom window is wrong

Wtf?

Jesus, people these days think only about ****ing ...

[BanditKS]

I could buff them by 50% but unless i crank up their cost/upkeep it would make being evil so easy anyone could win on VH/VH

[Achilla]

I think of trolls in Mumakil-like category, e.g. replenishment rate of once per 25 turns, avaible only in few regions on the map, ridiculous cost and upkeep.

[BanditKS]

well in the current version of TA:TW for the player and computer can be built anywhere and replenish just as fast as any other unit it seems.

[Renown]

I've not edited their stats in my mod, but with many of the changes I've made it means you'll see far fewers of them (though you will see them earlier).

This is in Divide and Conquer, by the way

[Archaon]

I've not edited their stats in my mod, but with many of the changes I've made it means you'll see far fewers of them (though you will see them earlier).

This is in Divide and Conquer, by the way

Nice, I love subtle advertising..

And i think Trolls were fixed in the patch, they are the way they are because they should be. If you do not like it follow Hallow's instructions and enjoy!

[Renown]

Nice, I love subtle advertising..

And i think Trolls were fixed in the patch, they are the way they are because they should be. If you do not like it follow Hallow's instructions and enjoy!

sauron was subtle at first. He turned evil.

So i figure I might as well be up front and be good!