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    President Obama's media cheerleaders are hailing how loved he is. But at the 100-day mark of his presidency, Mr. Obama is the second-least-popular president in 40 years.
    According to Gallup's April survey, Americans have a lower approval of Mr. Obama at this point than all but one president since Gallup began tracking this in 1969. The only new president less popular was Bill Clinton, who got off to a notoriously bad start after trying to force homosexuals on the military and a federal raid in Waco, Texas, that killed 86. Mr. Obama's current approval rating of 56 percent is only one tick higher than the 55-percent approval Mr. Clinton had during those crises.
    As the attached chart shows, five presidents rated higher than Mr. Obama after 100 days in office. Ronald Reagan topped the charts in April 1981 with 67 percent approval. Following the Gipper, in order of popularity, were: Jimmy Carter with 63 percent in 1977; George W. Bush with 62 percent in 2001; Richard Nixon with 61 percent in 1969; and George H.W. Bush with 58 percent in 1989.
    It's no surprise the liberal media aren't anxious to point out that their darling is less popular than George W. Bush. But given the Gallup numbers, their hurrahs could be more subdued. USA Today's front page touted the April poll results as positive, with the headline: "Public thinks highly of Obama." The current cover of Newsweek magazine ponders "The Secret of His [Mr. Obama's] Success." The comparison with previous presidents is useful because they are usually popular during their first few months in office - and most presidents have been more popular than Mr. Obama.
    The explanation for Mr. Obama's low approval is that he ran as a moderate but has governed from the far left. The fawning and self-deceiving press won't go there. On Sunday's "Meet the Press," host David Gregory asked a panel about critics who "would say one of the things that he's done in 100 days already is expand the role of government, the size of government." Historian Doris Kearns Goodwin claimed, "That's what he ran for the presidency in the first place for."
    Perplexed about complaints over Mr. Obama's expansion of government, Newsweek editor Jon Meacham asked: "does no one listen during campaigns?"
    It was these pundits who weren't paying attention during last year's campaign. In all three presidential debates, Mr. Obama promised to cut government spending and reduce the size of the deficit. He blamed the economic crisis on excessive deficits. At no time did candidate Barack Obama say that more deficit-spending was the solution.
    Mr. Obama's popularity after 100 days is the second-lowest for a simple reason: He is more partisan and divisive than his predecessors - including Richard Nixon.

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    Wasn't Clinton also one of the most popular later on?

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    Interesting, because gallup also says that Obama has the highest first quarter approval rating since Carter and that he is one point above Nixon. "His [Obama's] 63% first-quarter average is the better than the averages of each of his four predecessors, and the fourth best since 1953." (http://www.gallup.com/poll/117598/Ob...t-Quarter.aspx)
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    Man if my employers took a look at my proficiencies with any of their custom systems after only 100 days and decided that was what I was going to be kept or dismissed on...I'd be screwed. That in mind, he has until Nov. 4th 2008 to do s--t well as far as I'm concerned.
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    Bush had a great rating at first and then that plunged. Obama has a fairly poor rating now and...who's to say where it will go? The source is true but the reasoning is silly. In other words it's too early to tell.
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    Not surprising, he was a controversial candidate (being a black/muslim/terrorist and all)

    More to the point would be to see how many people who voted for him still support him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    Not surprising, he was a controversial candidate (being a black/muslim/terrorist and all)

    More to the point would be to see how many people who voted for him still support him.
    That would be fine if he went in being unpopular, but that doesn't explain the drop in approval. His "handling" of the financial situation does.
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    I suspect that a lot of people voted for him mindlessly based on his message. I admit I was a bit "hooked" by his skill as an orator and his promise of hope. I was also encourage by how he approached issues regarding science and the division and tiresome politics of past presidencies. But that's really all window dressing these promises. I'd be a fool to believe that everything was going to happen merely because he promised it. My opinion is subject to change on how things really turn out and so far I've remained lukewarm.
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    100 day ratings? worthless.

    the only thing I can say is that Obama will continue to be mediocre, since he is clearly not qualified to be in his position. I can also wear a suit and look sharp reading from a telepromter. big freaking deal. this guy lacks substance and experience, and it shows.

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    but he is more popular than bush

    which is vastly enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
    but he is more popular than bush

    which is vastly enough
    Ok barely more than Bush but even for conservatives Dubya was a failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy? View Post
    And it not going to get any better. Go ahead, flame the source, it won't make it less true.

    ?? it seems that you did not look at the poll itself.! maybe one ought to look at the poll he is talking about before he goes on a limb and posts such a claim.

    the article you posted is but one following the time-honored tradition of mis-interpreting data.



    Obama's 63% first-quarter average matches the historical average of 63% for elected presidents' first quarters since 1953. However, it is the fourth highest for a newly elected president since that time, and the highest since Jimmy Carter's 69% in 1977. The historical first-quarter average includes two presidents whose scores exceeded 70% (John Kennedy's 74% and Dwight Eisenhower's 71%).



    ^^ note that data pls
    From a broader historical perspective, Obama's 63% quarterly average is well above the historical norm for all approval ratings, regardless of presidential quarter. It ranks in the 74th percentile of all presidential quarters since 1945, and is significantly better than the 54% average rating for all presidential quarters.
    source: Gallup Poll


    so, apparently the article you quoted is factually inaccurate and misleading



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    Quote Originally Posted by Boer View Post
    Interesting, because gallup also says that Obama has the highest first quarter approval rating since Carter and that he is one point above Nixon. "His [Obama's] 63% first-quarter average is the better than the averages of each of his four predecessors, and the fourth best since 1953." (http://www.gallup.com/poll/117598/Ob...t-Quarter.aspx)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun View Post
    so, apparently the article you quoted is factually inaccurate and misleading
    There's a shock and this in the mudpit, tsk, tsk, tsk...

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    Are people simply ignoring the posts that show the actual survey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence of Arabia View Post
    Are people simply ignoring the posts that show the actual survey?

    apparently they are...given the fact that Obama is the 4th popular president after the 1953, according to the Gallup poll.


    im at a loss to understand why people continue in the same vein even after seeing that the topic is misleading and wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun View Post
    apparently they are...given the fact that Obama is the 4th popular president after the 1953, according to the Gallup poll.


    im at a loss to understand why people continue in the same vein even after seeing that the topic is misleading and wrong
    Because reading posts that don't support your own opinions or belief systems are just plain annoying and a waste of time.

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    He hasn't invaded a country yet, so he is pretty popular in my book...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Portuguese Rebel View Post
    He hasn't invaded a country yet, so he is pretty popular in my book...
    just you wait. Pakistan seems to line up pretty nicely for some good old American liberation .

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    ahh the washington times not even fit to be used as toilet paper.
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    Ah yes, the first 100 days of a 4 years Presidency. All the important stuff happens there.

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