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    Chrysler to File for Bankruptcy After Some Creditors Balk, Obama Aide Says


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    Chrysler LLC will proceed today with a Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing to reorganize into a more viable carmaker, an Obama administration official said.

    The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that the failure of some small creditors to agree to a final settlement is prompting the bankruptcy option. President Barack Obama will speak at noon New York time on the auto industry, the White House said in a statement today.
    The president’s staff plans to use the filing to pave the way for Fiat Spa to take a 20 percent stake in the Auburn Hills, Michigan-based automaker, people familiar with the situation said. If Chrysler has to go through bankruptcy, it won’t take long, Obama said yesterday.

    “It would be a very quick type of bankruptcy, and they could continue operating and emerge on the other side in a much stronger position,” Obama said.

    Chrysler’s best assets would be sold to a new entity that would have an ownership structure similar to that envisioned in an out-of-court deal between the U.S. automaker and Turin, Italy-based Fiat, said the people, who declined to be identified because discussions are private.

    Administration officials were still resolving outstanding issues and the plan wasn’t finished, one of the people said yesterday.

    “I don’t think there should be a stream of subsidies to automakers, but helping them to restructure now,” when sales have collapsed, is “realistic,” Obama said.

    Chrysler is expecting the Obama administration to say today whether the company has met all of its requirements to go ahead with the proposed Fiat alliance with Fiat, Chief Executive Officer Robert Nardelli said in a note to employees.

    New Offer

    As part of negotiations, the U.S. Treasury raised its offer to Chrysler’s lenders to $2.25 billion in cash to forgive $6.9 billion in secured debt, two other people familiar with the matter said. The previous offer had been for $2 billion in cash.

    Nardelli said yesterday in a different memo to employees that the company is waiting to hear whether its 46 lenders will agree to wipe out the debt.

    Cerberus Capital Management LP owns 100 percent of Chrysler after taking Daimler AG’s 19.9 percent stake earlier this week. The New York-based private-equity firm has said it will give up its ownership stake to allow for Chrysler’s restructuring.

    In the deal envisioned out of court, Fiat would become a 20 percent owner of Chrysler, and a union retiree health-care trust fund would hold 55 percent, with the rest of the company staying in the government’s hands initially, the people said.

    Fiat and the company’s new board would pick a CEO and chairman, Nardelli said in a Feb. 17 memo to workers. Fiat’s chief, Sergio Marchionne, said in an April 15 interview that he would be willing to run Chrysler if asked.

    Progress Made

    Chrysler has made progress in its out-of-court restructuring, including reaching cost-saving labor deals with the United Auto Workers union and Canadian Auto Workers. The CAW ratified its contract over the weekend; UAW members approved the deal yesterday.

    Late negotiations between the lenders broke down last night, the Wall Street Journal reported. Shawn Morgan, a spokeswoman for Chrysler, declined to comment. Jenni Engebretsen, a Treasury spokeswoman, didn’t immediately return an e-mail seeking comment.

    One issue remaining is the U.S. government’s effort to combine Chrysler Financial and GMAC LLC, the lending units affiliated with Chrysler and General Motors Corp.

    The government seeks to ensure that Chrysler has a well- capitalized credit arm, as required by Obama’s automotive task force, said people familiar with the situation.

    Sheila Bair, chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., has expressed concern that such a combination would involve her agency guaranteeing its debt, according to two people familiar with her views.

    FDIC Concerns

    Bair is reluctant to be drawn into bailing out auto-finance companies to the potential detriment of the FDIC’s deposit insurance fund, according to the people, who asked not to be identified because the discussions are private.

    Andrew Gray, an FDIC spokesman, Amber Gowen, a Chrysler Financial spokeswoman, and Gina Proia, a spokeswoman for GMAC, declined to comment.

    Fiat will produce its first model with Chrysler in 2011 if the accord between the companies is approved, Marchionne said March 27.

    Chrysler is considering producing models in the U.S. based on Fiat’s 500 small car, Punto and Panda, said Steve Landry, executive vice president of sales, in a Jan. 23 interview. Fiat- based models will need engineering changes to comply with U.S. emissions rules, and Chrysler may use more powerful engines to match consumer preferences.

    Savings, Revenue

    In its Feb. 17 viability plan, Chrysler forecast $6.9 billion of cost savings and additional revenue with Fiat through 2016, with a boost to earnings of at least $1 billion starting in 2012. Fiat and Chrysler will develop seven new small cars, according to the plan.

    Fiat has been trying to bring back its main brands in the U.S. after 14 years and had held talks with the three U.S. automakers last year on possible cooperation on production of Alfa Romeo cars. Marchionne also held talks with governments including Ontario for possible production in North America, before officially postponing the plan in October to 2011.
    Marchionne restored profit at Fiat in 2005 after introducing new models and sharing more components among cars and through cooperative projects with competitors. Fiat has several partnerships including ventures or joint projects with PSA Peugeot SA, Ford Motor Co. and Tata Motors Ltd.
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    boo
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    Booooo. I like Chrysler cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithie View Post
    Booooo. I like Chrysler cars.
    err have you read the article? The bankruptcy is made to save chrysler and prepare its partenship with Fiat, so actually Chrysler will be saved. It would be interesting to see what happens to GM now.
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    Impeach Obama!
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    I don't know if you guys heard, but apparently, Avtovaz (the maker of the infamous Lada, is also doing somewhat poorly. Stocks have plummeted since late 2008 and hasn't come up for air since.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/bu...lada.html?_r=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithie View Post
    I don't know if you guys heard, but apparently, Avtovaz (the maker of the infamous Lada, is also doing somewhat poorly. Stocks have plummeted since late 2008 and hasn't come up for air since.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/bu...lada.html?_r=1
    Russians cars are even crappier than American ones. no contest here.

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    to be honest, this is pretty sad. I hope not many people lose their jobs...sigh...
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    I don't care as long as they keep making Rams and Challengers.
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    I wish GM would keep making Camaros.
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    I remember burning 260-octane (Sunoco 260) fuel in my 1969 Dodge Super Bee Six-Pack, turning mid-11 second times in a quarter-mile ... full upholstery, 8-track stereo, and all. The rush of air into its three 2-barrel carburetors, on a 440 engine, sucked little children, adults, and houses into the combustion chamber.

    Please pardon a guy who's almost 61 for fond remembrances of Chrysler Corporation.

    On topic, they should file bankruptcy, rather than give control of the company over to Obama and his minions. Bankruptcy is what you do when you've failed in the market of ideas ...

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    There's nothing wrong with American cars, except Fords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulyaoth View Post
    There's nothing wrong with American cars, except Fords.
    Is this a subtle way of saying "If you fail, you're doing it RIGHT!"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulyaoth View Post
    There's nothing wrong with American cars, except Fords.
    I hate to disagree with you, but "filing for bankruptcy" seems to suggest that there is. Hopefully as much of Chrysler can be saved as possible and as many people as possible get to keep their jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulyaoth View Post
    There's nothing wrong with American cars, except Fords.


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    Chrystler has been my auto-making enemy since they made that ugly hearse called a "PT Cruiser." The only auto maker to produce uglier models is FIAT, so thank god now I can do all of my hating under one roof.

    My motto: you ain't seen ugly 'till you've seen FIAT ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romano-Dacis View Post
    My motto: you ain't seen ugly 'till you've seen FIAT ugly.
    aaarrggghh!!!! MY EYES!!!!

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    No it's a subtle way of saying people are stupid.
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    I'll take that as a yes.
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    Chrysler and GM's cars are just as good if not better than any japnese car, yet most americans stil have this stupid idea that, "dur american cars get 1 mpg and break down every mile and honda civics can drive 300mph and go 5000 miles on a tank and be run over by a boulder and not be damaged dur" so it's obviously people's stupidity at fault. Only thing they did wrong was try to milk the SUV fad for too long.
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