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    Default Version 2.0 RELEASED // Archaon's Loyal Allies // Compatible with TA:TW 2.1

    Archaon's Loyal Allies Modification Files
    ( Allies cant attack one another! )


    Update Update Update
    30/07/2010

    These will not be the starting diplomatic stances, the below are the attitude decisions.
    For example, the "want alliance while warring" means that when the faction is at war with another faction they will badly want to make and alliance with the faction, and for "unbreakable" and "good" alliances, these will only take effect after the alliance is made so basically the allies will either never consider breaking or hardly consider breaking the alliance, and another new one "Never Ally" means that the alliance will never be achieved, lastly the "target" attitudes are base on target priority points, there Prime target has the highest points and normal target have low amount of priority points.

    INDEX

    Unbreakable Alliance------------UB
    Good Alliance -------------------GA
    Want Alliance While Warrring ---WA
    Prime Target --------------------PT
    Secondry Target-----------------ST
    Normal Target-------------------NT
    Never Ally-----------------------NA

    Gondor
    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Arnor ------- UA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rohan ------ UA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dale --------XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dwarves ----XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Eriador------XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    SE----------XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    HE----------XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Mordor -----XX --- XX --- XX --- PT --- XX --- XX --- NA ---
    Isengard----XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Harad ------XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- XX ---
    Rhun -------XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    OOG--------XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    OOTMM-----XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---

    Arnor

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ UA --- XX --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rohan ------XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dale --------XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dwarves ----XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    SE----------XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    HE----------XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Mordor -----XX --- XX --- XX --- PT --- XX --- XX --- NA ---
    Isengard----XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    Harad ------XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Rhun -------XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    OOG--------XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    OOTMM-----XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---

    Rohan

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------UA --- XX --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Arnor ------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dale -------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dwarves ---- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Eriador------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    SE---------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    HE---------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Mordor ----- XX --- XX --- XX --- PT --- XX --- XX --- NA ---
    Isengard---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    Harad ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Rhun ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    OOG-------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    OOTMM----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---

    Dale

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ XX --- GA --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Arnor ------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rohan ------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dwarves ----UA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Eriador------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    SE---------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    HE---------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Mordor ----- XX --- XX --- XX --- PT --- XX --- XX --- NA ---
    Isengard---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Harad ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Rhun ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- XX ---
    OOG-------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    OOTMM----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---

    Dwarves

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ XX --- GA --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Arnor ------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rohan ------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dale --------UA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Eriador------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    SE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    HE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Mordor ----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Isengard---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Harad ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Rhun ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- XX ---
    OOG-------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    OOTMM----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---

    Eriador

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ XX --- GA --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rohan ------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dale -------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dwarves ---- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    SE---------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    HE---------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Mordor ----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Isengard---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Harad ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Rhun ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    OOG-------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    OOTMM----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---

    High Elves

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ XX --- GA --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Arnor ------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rohan ------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dale -------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dwarves ---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Eriador------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    SE----------UA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Mordor ----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Isengard---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    Harad ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Rhun ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    OOG-------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    OOTMM----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---

    Silvan Elves

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ XX --- GA --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Arnor ------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rohan ------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dale -------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Dwarves ---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Eriador------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    HE----------UA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Mordor ----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Isengard---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    Harad ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Rhun ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    OOG-------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    OOTMM----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---

    Mordor

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ XX --- XX --- XX --- PT --- XX --- XX --- NA ---
    Arnor ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- PT --- XX --- XX --- NA ---
    Rohan ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    Dale -------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    Dwarves ---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Eriador------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    SE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    HE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    Isengard---- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Harad ------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rhun ------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    OOG-------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    OOTMM----- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---

    Isengard

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    Arnor ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    Rohan ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- PT --- XX --- XX --- NA ---
    Dale -------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Dwarves ---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Eriador------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    SE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    HE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Mordor -----UA --- XX --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Harad ------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rhun ------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    OOG-------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    OOTMM----- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---

    OOTMM

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ XX --- XX --- XX --- PT --- XX --- XX --- NA ---
    Arnor ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Rohan ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Dale -------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Dwarves ---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    Eriador------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    SE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    HE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Mordor -----UA --- XX --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Isengard---- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Harad ------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rhun ------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    OOG-------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---

    OOG

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ XX --- XX --- XX --- PT --- XX --- XX --- NA ---
    Arnor ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Rohan ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Dale -------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Dwarves ---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    Eriador------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- NA ---
    SE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    HE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- NA ---
    Mordor -----UA --- XX --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Isengard---- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Harad ------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rhun ------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    OOTMM----- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---

    Harad

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ XX --- XX --- XX --- PT --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Arnor ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Rohan ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Dale -------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Dwarves ---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Eriador------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    SE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    HE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Mordor -----UA --- XX --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Isengard---- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Rhun ------- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    OOG-------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    OOTMM----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---

    Rhun

    FACTION --- UA --- GA --- WA --- PT --- ST --- NT --- NA ---
    Gondor------ XX --- XX --- XX --- PT --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Arnor ------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Rohan ------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Dale -------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- XX ---
    Dwarves ---- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- ST --- XX --- XX ---
    Eriador------ XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    SE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    HE---------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- NT --- XX ---
    Mordor -----UA --- XX --- WA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Isengard---- XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    Harad ------ XX --- GA --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    OOG-------- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---
    OOTMM----- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX --- XX ---


    Installation of the main mod;
    1) Download the attached file

    2) Extract to the "SEGA\Medieval II Total War\" directory.

    3) Delete map.rwm file in "SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\base" directory.

    Load the game!
    It is NOT savegame compatible.
    enjoy!
    Licensing:
    Open - feel free to use (with Credit given).

    UPDATE 27.04.09
    A version of this mod has been included in the official 1.1 patch of TATW. Thanks to KK and Hross for this!

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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    So you can't be attacked if you have an alliance witht hte faction? That's cool, but you should post in the sub-mod thread.

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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    Done. Reupload file if it's not hard cause it lost (((

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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    Wow, now that's a nice one! If only I had this one before I was backstabbed by Gondor...



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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    Many thanks

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    Does the AI know how to use this?

    Thanks in anticipation,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_William_III View Post
    Does the AI know how to use this?

    Thanks in anticipation,
    Lord_William_III
    This prevents any command being executed within the games mechanics - the AI is restricted the same way as the human. Any army that is given an order to attack an ally will never be able to have that order executed.

    in lamen terms - the option to attack an ally has been completely removed as an option - the AI doesn't even think about it anymore and with play testing they only venture near their ally settlements with armies if that army is trying to reach an enemy nearby.

    another thing i have noticed is now your ally will send you a few agents, these agents just sit next to your settlements and seem to do nothing.. Its not a bad thing, they are convenient for me to have there it just means they are paying upkeep for these units...

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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    Very cool. Next thing to do is set up good factions as allies... anyone know how to do that? I'd really like to keep the high elves from invading Eriador.

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    I can't find the "SEGA\Medieval II Total War\data\text\" directory. Do I have to create a new folder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steward_O View Post
    I can't find the "SEGA\Medieval II Total War\data\text\" directory. Do I have to create a new folder?
    I think you will find the places to put them inside medieval2 totalwar/mods/third age/data/text same goes for the other 2 (at least thats what i did)

    Awsome little submod btw

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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    Nice1!

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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    sounds good. but can the AI use diplomats to break alliances? i not its kinda unfair cus only we can backstab. (mind that wont be a problem for fair peopl such as myself)

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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    Delete the option to sign alliance with other factions and break with already allied ones and I'm fine with your mod. Although, I have my house rules to which I keep so backstabbing is not an option from my side or making unrealistic peace treaties/alliances. I don't mind getting backstabbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvedui View Post
    I think you will find the places to put them inside medieval2 totalwar/mods/third age/data/text same goes for the other 2 (at least thats what i did)

    Awsome little submod btw
    thx

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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    Very nice, +rep. You found a way to fix the buggy diplomacy in M2TW. But does this work without glitches? For example, Mordor allied with Rohan? And what if a lot of factions become allied? Pretty much nothing will happen in that case.

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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    ill prolly make a rar file if i can

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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    Quote Originally Posted by wupwup View Post
    sounds good. but can the AI use diplomats to break alliances? i not its kinda unfair cus only we can backstab. (mind that wont be a problem for fair peopl such as myself)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfshead View Post
    Very nice, +rep. You found a way to fix the buggy diplomacy in M2TW. But does this work without glitches? For example, Mordor allied with Rohan? And what if a lot of factions become allied? Pretty much nothing will happen in that case.
    They can break the alliance with a diplomate the same way you can.

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    Default Re: Diplomacy Mod - Keep Alliances!

    Good work, no allies atking me.

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