Please Fix Evil!

[Nazgûl Killer]

I don't know if this is the thread for this, but Evil is kicking ass!
I'm playing Silvan Elves and I have annihilated OotMM and Isengard. Sadly however, Gondor is completely whiped out, even though I helped it twice now. Dale is half destroyed and the Dwarves have lost all their Eastern regions. I can't fight ALL Evil factions (Well, I am right now, and winning) and win for too long, so I must ask you to fix the auto-resolve problem with Evil. It gets really irritating after a while.
If you can, please do! I know you guys are doing your best, and I must say this mod is excellent, but this is really annoying.
Thank again!

[Hallow]

I don't know if this is the thread for this, but Evil is kicking ass!
I'm playing Silvan Elves and I have annihilated OotMM and Isengard. Sadly however, Gondor is completely whiped out, even though I helped it twice now. Dale is half destroyed and the Dwarves have lost all their Eastern regions. I can't fight ALL Evil factions (Well, I am right now, and winning) and win for too long, so I must ask you to fix the auto-resolve problem with Evil. It gets really irritating after a while.
If you can, please do! I know you guys are doing your best, and I must say this mod is excellent, but this is really annoying.
Thank again!

YES! Couldnt agree more, getting the same with Gondor, While I am fighting Harad and Mordor in the south OotMM have moved and crushed all of eradior except 1 province, all of high elves except their western stuff, and eastern parts of silvans. Rhun has almost taken out dale and I imagine they will move on Dwarves next. Then the worst for me personally as Gondor, Isengard has completely rolled over Rohan.

[JuL14n]

I hope you will make the good factions better, there is allmost nothing left of any good faction, and currently I'm playing as Rhûn on the 90:th turn.
The only + was when Dale invaded me with 3 full supplied armies.
Soon there will be no good left in middle earth and war will break out between the evil factions.

Hmm.. Playing the campaign map on hard-very hard could maybe slow down the spreading of evil, because of greater armies.

[Krechet(SiCh)]

1. We don't want to make copy of LOTR there "dark" factions totally suck
2. Only Gondor and Rohan from good factions suck and only than PC playses them. It wopuld be not interesting if they would win
3. Power of both sides are equal

[Nazgûl Killer]

How can it be that power of both sides is equal, when in EVERY SINGLE campaign I've played, and every single player I've seen says the same, evil always wins!
The auto-resolve advantage the evil factions has really ruins the campaign.

[Hieronymus]

for starters, the balance of a battle, is that measured by the amount of units in an army, or their stats? or a mix of both?

If only the units then the auto-resolve issue is the problem in these battles. My first campaign as Gondor has had me nothing but 30%/70% battles and I always win them, that ofcourse wouldn't count if AI players auto resolve.. then the 70% orcs would be in a major advantage right?

that might explain why Rivendell has fallen to the OotMM..

[lennartje]

Auto-resolve is just a simple thingy and I think the devs (of M2:TW) thought no one would ever use it. And besides, it works (almost) fine for vanilla. However, if you start messing around, giving units huge differences, it just doesn't cut it anymore.
It prefers numbers over stats, and doesn't take morale into count. Since most evil factions got plenty of numbers, but lack stats and morale (which balances it in battlemap), AR screws things up.

[Krechet(SiCh)]

Autoresolve is very hard for fixing. But we give additional advantages for some "light" factions than PC plays them. And there are 7 "light" opposite 5 "dark". And As I said Dale 90% win his war than PC playes it. Elves, Dwarves ansd Eriador win more times than loose

[Nazgûl Killer]

Autoresolve is very hard for fixing. But we give additional advantages for some "light" factions than PC plays them. And there are 7 "light" opposite 5 "dark". And As I said Dale 90% win his war than PC playes it. Elves, Dwarves ansd Eriador win more times than loose

How is that possible?
Honestly, I don't see that happening.
In every single campaign I've played, Evil won. Every single one.
Heck, I've even had one when the Silvan Elves pushed Mordor out of Dol Goldur, but guess what? The OotMM crushed them, in 25 turns! They took out Caras Gladhorn, took back Dol Guldur, many Mirkwood settlements... I'm trying to find a way to help my allies (Fund their wars and so on) but nothing helps, it's definitely a problem with the autoresolve system.
I understand that autoresolve IS hard to fix, but what you can do is instead of making all of Mordor and Evil's infantry Heavy Infantry, make them light, like it really was.
The orcs were poorly armored and armed, as opposed to the Humans and Elves who were expertly equipped. It is quite illogical to make most (And by that, I mean all aside for maybe 1 or 2) of Evil's units heavy.

[BlackViper]

Making them "light" doesn't change much. The auto resolve function is to simple for that. It favours numbers and their is nothing you can do about it. And in my campaign Mordor got steamrolled by Gondor. Was intresting to watch
Ootmm lost the war of the Dwarves. And rhun has not taken any settlements of dale yet. Isengard doesn't have steamrolled rohan.
The only thing that bothers me is that constant war between high elves and eriador give them an alliance in second release please. That would also give the elves the chance to attack OotMM etc.

[Cooltosha]

How is that possible?
Honestly, I don't see that happening.
In every single campaign I've played, Evil won. Every single one.
Heck, I've even had one when the Silvan Elves pushed Mordor out of Dol Goldur, but guess what? The OotMM crushed them, in 25 turns! They took out Caras Gladhorn, took back Dol Guldur, many Mirkwood settlements... I'm trying to find a way to help my allies (Fund their wars and so on) but nothing helps, it's definitely a problem with the autoresolve system.
I understand that autoresolve IS hard to fix, but what you can do is instead of making all of Mordor and Evil's infantry Heavy Infantry, make them light, like it really was.
The orcs were poorly armored and armed, as opposed to the Humans and Elves who were expertly equipped. It is quite illogical to make most (And by that, I mean all aside for maybe 1 or 2) of Evil's units heavy.

I was playing 2 campaigns as Gondor, 2 as Dwarves and 1 as Rohan.

In all campaigns this is what happened: Silvan Elves get their asses kicked either by OotMM or by Mordor or by Isengard. OotMM crush High Elves and takes Rivendell, then High Elves decide they should retake it, but by rolling over Eriador. So they attack Eriador, and then Eriador gets destroyed by OotMM and High Elves. Finally OotMM are beating High Elves, who are barely holding up. Dale gets owned by Rhun in appro 50-100 turns. Dwarves lose Iron Mountains and in east hold only Erebor, while in west they are barely holding on with High Elves against OotMM.

In my Gondor campaigns, this is what happens: Same as above, with exception of Mordor and Isengard nailing Rohan.

In my Dwarves campaign, all of this, but Gondor is being nailed by Harad, Rhun, Mordor and Isengard.

In my Rohan campaign, all of this, but Gondor is survivng thanks to my aid, but I am being pressed hardly by Isegard and OotMM.

General rules: Evil wins and nails every Good computer controlled player. Evil spawns heavy units right away, while Good must wait for 100 turns to get their full roster. Invasions are unstoppable and targets in order are: Edoras, Eastern Osgiliath, Imladris, Minas Tirith, Erebor. Evil beats all armies sent against them. Good doesn't get family members, only some pathetic generals that die easily and then the faction dies out or is being nailed by Evil. Evil rarely turns on Evil, at least not as often as Good on Good (High Elves on Eriador, Dwarves on Dale). Finally, all Evil generals have at least 5 stars, while all Good generals at maximum get 3-5 stars.

SO PLEASE, NERF EVIL!

[EXT64]

Wow BlackViper, that's really cool that your good had success. I hope that happens in mine someday. At least it seems random(ish).

[Nazgûl Killer]

Meh.
I hope that in the next few versions this will be fixed. Promptly.

[decimator22]

My campaign is going exactly as Black Viper's one. I beleive depending what you choose other factions will lose or win. I'm playing as Mordor and Rohan is the strongest militarly, Dale is Kicking Easterling butt, Dwarves have done nothing, High elves have always been fighting vs Eriador, Isengard hasn't been able to get settlements, and Gondor has been killed by me, but left a huge force of rebels in their remainging settlements.

[Kiljaden]

[kild]

[Nazgûl Killer]

By the way, change your 'typo' of my name or I will hold this as a personal insult and forward it to the moderators.
Spam? I was requesting something. That you think you're always right and only you should ave the right to say whatever you want, doesn't mean I'm spamming, so hush hush.
I never said Rohan isn't strong, it is VERY strong, if you would read what I've said instead of saying "LOLLOLOLOLSPAMI'MSONARROWMINDED", you'll see that what I've said is that the Evil Factions' AI has a clear advantage in auto resolve.

[DoktorJ]

I'd have to disagree with this, as well. In my current Isengard campaign, Sauron called an invasion on Edoras, and Rohan managed to fend off 5 separate full stack crusading armies before Ootmm finally took them out. Then they retook it within 5 turns. Sometimes evil wins, sometimes good wins, if every campaign played out the exact same way it would be pointless to replay the campaign.

[Haerski]

This might be same series with that auto-resolve problem: I'm playing as Silvan elves and often have to fight against 2000-3000 orcs. Thats really easy job for ~1000 elves, but it seems AI doesn't understand that. No matter if I'm attacker of defender AI always attacks me first and I just have to take strong defensive position and slaughter them. But shouldn't that happen only if AI is overpowered? Now it makes battles just super easy especially for elves since they have strong archers. There is no point of moving your troops if enemy is eventually coming for you to get killed. (I noticed they defended only if the numbers were close to equal or when there was more elves)

[Seleukos_I.]

i noticed the same. they only defended once when they had only one or two units

[diablo49]

no problem with that imo. When the orcs have numbers on their side they have no reason to be passive. What about when they came out from behind the black gate?