Troll Poll.

[ISA Gunner]

I've been playing as Gondor a bit and it's like turn 70 something and i have a 3 quarter stack of Archer and Swordsmen Militia in West Osgiliath right. I'm playing on M/M w/o any cheats. So Mordor has just got access to Trolls recently. They send a 3 quarter stack with SEVEN units of Mountain Trolls at W.O. They are UNSTOPPABLE! I manage to kill one from each unit of Trolls and if i'm lucky, some lose 2. It's ridiculous. No matter how many arrows i pump into them, they simply don't die. Then they go onto my walls and mow through all my archers without taking ANY casualties. And these are just freaking Mountain Trolls. I'd hate to the think what the Olog-Hai would be like. I can take one beating fine, but not consistant Troll thumpings. They're attacking Cair Andros with a full stack army with 5 units of Trolls. And to make matters worst, Sauron called an Invasion on Minas Tirith so i'm dealing with 4 full Isengard, OOTMM, Rhun and Harad armies on top of Corsairs and more Harad armies overunning Lebennin via the landbridge there.

Has anybody else noticed how overpowered Trolls are? Or am i just crap?

[hugorune]

I'm beginning to think you need artillery to counter things like trolls and mumakil, otherwise you're going to suffer.

[miniwally]

Thats middle earth trolls for you it's what mordor did at minis tirith.

[Col Poutting]

Trolls are powerfull??!!!

Great; thats what they're supoosed to mate!!! See that big bad mofo comin over there??2 tons, skin like rock, stupid as minerals and as mean as stupid; well of course you cant kill him with a slap in the face!!!

joke apart, they are very strong, the only thing that should be done imo is to make them far more expensive and lower the recruitment pool.

Have fun mowing them down, i'm not yet so far, but im on vh/vh so im lookin to NOT encouter stacks with 3-5 trolls in them lol.

[BlackViper]

Also the garrison script should NOT spawn them it is annoying xD

[qwertman]

Also the garrison script should NOT spawn them it is annoying xD

why? its totally realistic. every family has a mountain troll or 6 just lazing about in the barn.....


totally hate garrison script. breaks immersion. it should be optional during install.

[Alkarin]

why? its totally realistic. every family has a mountain troll or 6 just lazing about in the barn.....


totally hate garrison script. breaks immersion. it should be optional during install.

theres a garrison script? i wouldnt know because of the waves and waves of orcs being thrown at me every turn


i do agree trolls are too OP. im fine with either lowering their stats or just making them way more expensive. i fought a custom battle with 2 mountain trolls and 1 olag hai (with support of 2 armies worth of orcs) against about 1 full army worth of men/elves (was reinacting last alliance thing ) and the trolls ripped us apart. i had to send my archers into melee because the trolls would not DIE

[alhoon]

joke apart, they are very strong, the only thing that should be done imo is to make them far more expensive and lower the recruitment pool.

Have fun mowing them down, i'm not yet so far, but im on vh/vh so im lookin to NOT encouter stacks with 3-5 trolls in them lol.

Well, they should be somewhat easier to kill and have a lower recruitment pool.

About Mumakil: 6800 denars?!?! OK they're engines of total devastation... but they cost as a whole army!

[ISA Gunner]

Yeah, but HALF stacks of Trolls??? There were freaking only 5 Olog-Hai at the siege of Minas Tirith!

I'm beginning to think you need artillery to counter things like trolls and mumakil, otherwise you're going to suffer.

Mumakil i understand. But Trolls? A good arrow volley and one Olog-Hai is down. And you can't use siege weapons whilst defending. Also ballista towers don't touch them.

[BlackViper]

Yeah, but HALF stacks of Trolls??? There were freaking only 5 Olog-Hai at the siege of Minas Tirith!

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That you've only seen 5 doesn't mean they weren't more...

[Anibal at portas]

the trolls are very fine.

[qwertman]

they're fine but they should be very very expensive and high upkeep. Should be more of an exotic unit you bring a unit of as a treat in a full scale invasion.

[Krechet(SiCh)]

Price of Olog-Hai should be rised much. Price of Cave and Mountain trolls - a bit

[miniwally]

yh i wish i could get rid of it

[Morray]

Well I'm yet to fight AGAINST them so I think they're great!

[SirVulf]

I agree. The invasion script needs to be refined to make it lesser quality troops, if not, all peasants. At least that way it wouldn't be a total absolute breeze. like 1/2 to 3/4 peasants and 1/4 militia. But spawning Trolls with the script... ummm ya that's a little unreal. It already sucks that the player is at a disadvantage when trying to take a city that's got no troops in it. Having a complete unknown and having to dedicate a FULL stack EACH time to take a city with 2 units in it... that's a asking a bit much.

[lennartje]

Trolls have alot of hp, so you won't make casualties in the begin. You'll have to weaken and weaken them out, so you might lose 300 men before you got 1 down, but then they'll all die soon enough. Focus your troops on 1 unit and make sure you got enough units. Hit and run won't work on them, as they'll heal when the battle's over.

I'd say they're fine, but they could be a bit more expensive (1500 for Olog-Hai isn't very much, dunno about the unkeep).

[Kiljaden]

Even lore-wise, increasing the cost of both trolls substantially makes sense. Think of the costs of "domesticating", training (especially training), and arming the beasts.

[DeliCious.vP]

im realy enjoying fighting against trolls i thought they was gonna be like the Elephants from broken creacant just fall over and die right away. i like having to adapt to them makes me feel goooooooood.

[jan_boruta]

They are tough and therefore they are good! It satisifies the player when you see them die. I second those who suggest making them a little more expensive, this would balance them out, also in custom battle