muslim invasions changed the population or not?

[0N3]

simple question if there is an answer out there...
Im wondering if in modern countries who is in the area of the muslim invasion "area" are mostly arabic or native... or a fair mix, perhaps?

[Manco]

Mostly native.

Arabic peninsula had a fairly small population, while the areas they conquered were some of the most populated on the Earth.. A little bit of math shows it's impossible for a dramatic population change to have occurred.

[Babur]

simple question if there is an answer out there...
Im wondering if in modern countries who is in the area of the muslim invasion "area" are mostly arabic or native... or a fair mix, perhaps?

doubt it

although the populations of the Middle East had been depleted by Plague in the 6th Century, and of course the disastrous Khosrau-Heraclius war which had dominated the early part of the 7th Century.

[Bovril]

These days Arab/Arabic simply means Arabic speaking. Arabian would be the term to use for the people under discusion here. AFAIK actual significant people movements from the Arabian peninsular were rare, and did not consitute much more than Bedouin movements into the fringes of the Syrian dessert (into Iraq and Jordan) and the Sinai and small parts of eastern Egypt. Soldiers, traders and elites spread all over the place, but I guess that's not really what you mean. Also, the Arabian peninsular was not so culturally and lingusitically homogenous at the advent of Islam as it is now.

[awalanche]

Hmm It is a fact that Arabs influenced many aspect of today Spanish community.

Maybe some changes in Balkan during Ottoman period because today in Turkey many family has a link with Balkan territories including mine

Same is also true for some natives living in Balkans today.

[Babur]

Hmm It is a fact that Arabs influenced many aspect of today Spanish community.

Maybe some changes in Balkan during Ottoman period because today in Turkey many family has a link with Balkan territories including mine

Same is also true for some natives living in Balkans today.

culturally yes but perhaps not very much genetically.

[awalanche]

culturally yes but perhaps not very much genetically.

It is true we have a rich culture combination of ancient Turkic, Arap, Balkan and Black Sea culture

When I was at Greek Island, I realized that I looked like Greeks and even some tourists at there try to ask for adress guidance.

However I dont know about other Balkan territories. My friends from Bulgaria (actually their families immigrated from Bulgaria) are different than me (skin and eye color)

There are many genetic research about the lineage of each nation in the world. To be honest I do not have a clear idea about my lineage.

All I know is that my mother is from Kosovo and my father's lineage is from nomadic tribes used to live at Toros Mountains Mediterranean

[Dracula]

When I was at Greek Island, I realized that I looked like Greeks and even some tourists at there try to ask for adress guidance.

Now those are probably the best moments in history.

When I was in Spain/being bulgarian/ I couldn't recognise my best friend who had come to meet me at the airport, saw him and thought : "there is a true spaniard" ... He had long hair and looked totally changed. The spaniards thought I am english ... and the foreigners in Spain turned to me for guidance as one of the locals Total mass.

[Dr. Croccer]

Mostly native.

Libya and several other north African countries have a big Arabic population however.

[Nikos]

The majority of the populations of the Levant, North Africa and Asia Minor are descended from the original inhabitants of the area. The original number of invaders was very small, perhaps a few thousand, compared to the population of the territories they settled. In places like Turkey, Lebanon, Syria and Egypt, Arabic and Turkish languages and cultures have replaced the original languages and cultures of the area being adopted by the original inhabitants. While the people of Egypt, the Levant, and Asia Minor may consider themselves Turkish or Arab, they probably genetically are not. A similar thing happened in the New World when the Spanish and Portuguese came over, the language and culture of the conqueror being adopted by the conquered, while still retaining some local features.

[Каие]

Yes. The Arabs and Muslims raped North Africa and it's native inhabitants, culturally, linguistically and even racially outnumbering them. Is that what you wanted to know?

[Dracula]

Well in Turkey for sure you can observe people that look like irish or germans , completely white and with light brown, red or even blonde hair.

[awalanche]

Well in Turkey for sure you can observe people that look like irish or germans , completely white and with light brown, red or even blonde hair.

If I could find a real blond girl looking like Irish or German, I will break up with my current girlfriend.

[dogukan]

Well in Turkey for sure you can observe people that look like irish or germans , completely white and with light brown, red or even blonde hair.

Turkey is not Arabic....though there are Arabic influences on the south-eastern people.
There are people from Caucus and Balkans mixed in Turkey along with Turkic people.(and considering most TUrkics lived close to Caucus for a loooong time.
Also there are Iranic Kurds which are also an indo-European group of people. And as far as I know even celts lived in Anatolia around Galatia. So we have pretty much everything in here.

And have you been to Turkey? You didn't know this much last time we spoke

[Dracula]

And have you been to Turkey? You didn't know this much last time we spoke

I haven't , I saw a youtube video with people dancing where you could take a turk for a brit

[0N3]

Yes. The Arabs and Muslims raped North Africa and it's native inhabitants, culturally, linguistically and even racially outnumbering them. Is that what you wanted to know?

yes =( but i wanna be part egyptian, not arabian

[Arto]

yes =( but i wanna be part egyptian, not arabian

The native Egyptian aren't completely gone.