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    Default Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    Anyone had that wish or thought that it would be cool to stretch the time period of the Third age abit longer? Rather then it is now, as the current start date is almost at the end of the third age.

    I think it would be cool if we could have a start date somewhere about the 10th or 20th century of the third age and could keep on going until the end of it. I'm not so well aware of the time periods thought.. But the case could be to only change some attributes and family members of the factions, and make it so that Gondor have a king rather then a Steward(which is the main reason why i want this). Might want to change so that Isengard is a emerging faction also.

    *NOTE* This is just an Idea. I dont have any type of skills to make this happen, are willing to learn how to apply this add thoe, if someone could enlighten me how to do it.

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    Doesn't seem to be much point to be honest... Although I would absolutely love a campaign where all the factions start out a bit... smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiljaden View Post
    Doesn't seem to be much point to be honest... Although I would absolutely love a campaign where all the factions start out a bit... smaller.
    Good idea for a custom campaign. All factions start with 1 city/castle and have to build up.

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    Could be like in SS .. a late and a early campaign.. in which every faction started out with alot less regions(in the early on).. Same thing could be the case here.

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    Several factions didn't excist back then so TA:TW start date won't moved back but provincial campaign or sub-mod is possibility.

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    it'd be easy as hell to do an early campaign. If you guys want it I'll script one up real quick.

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    You can extend the date to when the game ends... If that helps.

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    a early campaign would be cool.

    Im currently playin 12 turn/year so the amount of turns isnt a problem.. The think i would like to see is so that Gondor has a king, and if it should be a early campaign it should atleast have a lore accure gondorian king. But i guess that would take some extra amount of work.

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    Quote Originally Posted by aNarion. View Post
    a early campaign would be cool.

    Im currently playin 12 turn/year so the amount of turns isnt a problem.. The think i would like to see is so that Gondor has a king, and if it should be a early campaign it should atleast have a lore accure gondorian king. But i guess that would take some extra amount of work.
    hey would you mind sharing the file that does that or paste which lines i have to alter? i want 12/year as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlerich View Post
    hey would you mind sharing the file that does that or paste which lines i have to alter? i want 12/year as well
    Sure mate,

    Go to this directory Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign and open up the descr_strat file, replace the following lines:

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    start_date 2854 summer
    end_date 3050 winter
    timescale 0.25


    and change it to this:

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    start_date 2854 winter
    end_date 3050 winter
    timescale 0.0835


    If you want the characters to age accordingly, you'll have to do the following.

    Open up the campaign_script file, which is in the same directory as the previous one, and Copy these lines into the file:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    ; 1. 12 Turns per year.
    declare_counter month
    set_counter month 1 ;set to January

    monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal ; set the season for each month
    if I_CompareCounter month == 1 ;January
    console_command season winter
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 2 ;February
    console_command season winter
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 3 ;March
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 4 ;April
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 5 ;May
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 6 ;June
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 7 ;July
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 8 ;August
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 9 ;September
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 10 ;October
    console_command season winter
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 11 ;November
    console_command season winter
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 12 ;December
    console_command season winter
    end_if

    inc_counter month 1 ;advance the month
    if I_CompareCounter month == 13 ;start a new year
    set_counter month 1
    end_if
    end_monitor

    monitor_event FactionTurnEnd FactionType slave
    and I_CompareCounter month < 12
    console_command season summer
    end_monitor


    OBS! Make sure to make backups on both of these files incase anything goes wrong!

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    Quote Originally Posted by aNarion. View Post
    Sure mate,

    Go to this directory Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign and open up the descr_strat file, replace the following lines:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    start_date 2854 summer
    end_date 3050 winter
    timescale 0.25


    and change it to this:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    start_date 2854 winter
    end_date 3050 winter
    timescale 0.0835


    If you want the characters to age accordingly, you'll have to do the following.

    Open up the campaign_script file, which is in the same directory as the previous one, and Copy these lines into the file:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    ; 1. 12 Turns per year.
    declare_counter month
    set_counter month 1 ;set to January

    monitor_event PreFactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal ; set the season for each month
    if I_CompareCounter month == 1 ;January
    console_command season winter
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 2 ;February
    console_command season winter
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 3 ;March
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 4 ;April
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 5 ;May
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 6 ;June
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 7 ;July
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 8 ;August
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 9 ;September
    console_command season summer
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 10 ;October
    console_command season winter
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 11 ;November
    console_command season winter
    end_if

    if I_CompareCounter month == 12 ;December
    console_command season winter
    end_if

    inc_counter month 1 ;advance the month
    if I_CompareCounter month == 13 ;start a new year
    set_counter month 1
    end_if
    end_monitor

    monitor_event FactionTurnEnd FactionType slave
    and I_CompareCounter month < 12
    console_command season summer
    end_monitor


    OBS! Make sure to make backups on both of these files incase anything goes wrong!
    cool will try that tonight

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    Listen... If we would move sarting date back about 1,000 years if people want king to Gondor, we would have to remove Rohan and Isengard and reform whole Dwarves faction. Lots of other things would have to be done, too. Moving starting dtae back takes less than minute but keeping historical accuracy is other thing.

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    I hear you. But it doesnt necessarily have to be 100% history occure. Rohan and Isengard could be two emering factions.. Some not so important factors such as reforming the dwarves doesnt need to be change.. only have to change/make some important character, that suits.. and change/minimize some owners of settlements.

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    Woah woah woah now. All I wanna do is make the factions start smaller. I couldn't care less whether or not the years sync up with anything

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    Default Re: Third Age with earlier Start date, any1?

    Nah, the Third Age was boring until the end. Model some Balrogs, give the Elves a huge boost and a few massive stacks on the western coast of a Beleriand map and make First Age: Total War already!
    Third Age: Total War! (!!!!)

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