I don't want your opinion.
I just want to know which faction has the best units and the best advantage location in the game
I want to know which faction units have the highest atk and def out of everyone
I don't want your opinion.
I just want to know which faction has the best units and the best advantage location in the game
I want to know which faction units have the highest atk and def out of everyone
best units .. probably venice or milan.... at least to start with... and professional armies later also
Best location advantage england of course... or scotland if you are brave enough to wipe out the english..
As far as the units with the highest atk and def well there is a lot of debate about whether the figures given in unit tabs are correct.
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M2TW is not that kind of game I'm afraid. I think there's no such thing as a 'best faction'
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion.
- Alexander the Great
I agree, there is not "best faction" but some factions are easier to play than others. If that is what you mean by better, than I would suggest Milan. They start out in a prime, central location in Europe. Due to them being an Italian faction and having Italian Militia, they are able to recruit VERY good troops in cities. In fact, I would recomend that if you play as them, to convert castles into cities. You will make a great deal more money, and, at least in the early stages of the game, be able to recruit better troops. Milan also starts out in a great location to be able to be of an asset to the pope, which, if you play your cards right, means that he will turn a blind eye to you attacking other catholic factions and will be much more likely to accept your crusade requests (a life saver once you start to invade the holy land)
Also, though, as you can see, I am kinda biased towards Milan. Just look at my Avatar![]()
To defeat the enemy 100 times in 100 battles does not show true skill, but to subdue the enemy without a single fight shows true talent. -Sun Tzu
If you're looking for a safe faction so you could build up I would play as Russia,England(of course),Scotland,and even Sicily and Egypt. But pretty much all the factions are even as they all have different strenghts and weaknesses. But the best rounded faction would have to be France and Venice in late game.
Play as Turks and see if you can manage to wipe out both egypt,byzantine empire and defeat mongol horde.Turks are good but they are the hardest.
Personally I would put England, Venice and Milan as the easiest and The Byzantine Empire as one of the hardest but faction wise MED 2 is a lot more balanced that RTW
Poland, Denmark, and Hungary are the ones for me.
- Army wise, they are great. They all have good ranged cavalry, which is quite dangerous in good hand. They lack good spear but backed up by their cavalry. Their infantry is somewhat mediocre but good enough to use. And my favorite of all is the serpentine. That small cannon have excellent accuracy, faster rate of fire than other cannons, excellent range and good elephant killer. Hungary has the best mix of unit for Catholic factions, IMO. They have good ranged cavalry, who can also act as shock troops for flank and rear attacks. Also battlefield assassins.
- Position wise, the Danes are the best among the 3. they have the Scandinavia to fall back and they have only one front, initially. The Hungarian have a harder position. They have to content with the Byzantine, the Poles, HRE, Venice and potentially Russia. However, The Byzantine can be destroyed fairly quickly (17 turns for me). The Poles are quite a PITA, I had to garrison a city in full with militia to stop em' before I can counter attack. The Venetian can be destroy once you take Constantinople and use 2 small fleet to block any armies from Asia Minor and free up your force there. The HRE have quite a lot of enemy to begin with.
The biggest enemy that HRE as from the beginning is his relationship with the Pope, have a look at their standings compared to others.
For the OP:
To me members that have replied here maybe passed beside the point.
Like other said all faction have their up's and down's you need to try them, people that have stated factions did so by their preferences.
To choose a faction you would like you need to think of what kind of :
1- What kind of campaign you want to play
2- What type of religion
3- What position would you like to start off with (On an Island like England or the Danes) or in the middle of a bloodfest like HRE, Venice, Hungary
4- what kind of units do you like best
5- What ennemy do you wish to face
6- How would you like your empire to be in the end
7- Do you want to start with a small or big empire i.e. Danes start with one region, French with 5
You need to keep this in mind
Hope this helps you more find you path
Regards
Rebel6666
Last edited by Silent Assassin; April 28, 2009 at 08:30 AM.
England for no naval invasions and that their longbowman kick ass.
Sorry to bust your buble but if you have installed patch 1.2 and 1.3 you will definatly have Naval invasions from Portugual on Dublin or Caervon(SP)
Edit:other examples, Tunis (by Sicily, Milan), Ajaccio (Milan, Moors Sicily), Olso (by the Scots, England), Helnisky (by Danes, Poland, HRE) all of the islands are often attacked via naval invasions
Last edited by Silent Assassin; April 28, 2009 at 11:04 AM.
The Turks have a nifty unit roster, and have dominion over a very rich part of the world. Any faction who's army is as powerful and flexible as that as the Mongols, and has the added advantage of the most powerful gunpowder in the game, has got to be a front runner.
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well i like sicily, dunno why it isnt mentioned here
you can have cities, and still have a good army, except for horse power, the norman knight and dismounted ones are better than the feudals...
even if they lack unique units, they got almost ALL kind of units
great infantry, great cavalary, and good missile power (i just luve pavise-xbowmen, great def and great attack)
and u start from a very safe position, if u have the ''help on'' u can hear the lady saying that u can expand anywhere you want, and its true, just don't go for a 2 way front, like durazzo and valencia (eventually, in durrazo u get byzies and venetians at your throat, and valencia, thw whole peninsula on you)
if u choose sicily, go straight for the crusades and wipe egypt, DON'T take Durazzo, its seems it attract a lot of attention
the only stupid thing is that milan, venice will still blockade ur ports and declare war on you....its the AI, just ignore and try to have a ceasefire after that...
Rebel got it right. All the points he made need to be taken into consideration. The main one for me is what troop types you like to use. You should experiment with different factions to decide that. Me, I'm all about grind it out infantry with ranged support. That makes England, Venice, Milan and those types fun for me to play. Sometimes, I want to try something different so I go with Spain for less infantry strength but more ranged choices. Javelins can be fun in the early going. Unfortunately, my play style usually has me eventually creating infantry based armies once knights come along because that is what I am more comfortable with. I also try to play with only faction specific troops. In other words, in my current scottish campaign, I don't recruit feudal knights, everyone has those. I am sticking with only scottish pike and highland nobles for my infantry. Not the best infantry out there, but its fun starting out battles with slightly weaker troops.
Position is definately second for me, do I want to be able to develop an economy first before too many battles? England and Spain are great for that as you can limit your fronts. Maybe, you want to get right in the middle of astorm. Byzantium or Hungary is great for that. In the middle of it and a good economy, Venice gets my vote.
Finally, how much time traveling do you want to do? I tried Russia, but everything is just to far apart and it began to wear on my patience getting from point a to point b, although you do have to really plan reinforcement for you armies since you can't just jump from the next city over to break a seige. My excite the strategist in you.
I'd say that France are the most powerful faction in the game.
Powerful in the early game Ataturk yes with their heavy cav but this tends to be negated later as more and more units can match them.