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    whats YOUR opinion on the Second Amendment personally im all for it i believe it is THE key right in America's Constitution
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    Naturally, I am all for it

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    Moved to the academy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangers1025 View Post
    personally im all for it i believe it is THE key right in America's Constitution


    Christ almighty....

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    I support the second Amendment completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post


    Christ almighty....
    I'm sure He appreciates your support!

    To the point, tyranny always fears an armed populace, which is the primary reason for the Second Amendment. Our own incipient oppression would be much farther down the line towards its Marxist goals, without fear of people like me who ... despite my age ... am perfectly willing to go to the bush and make revolution. That, if the One Party decides to take my guns, or even tax them heavily.

    This is why the Teleprompter-in-Chief is moving slowly on only one issue ... guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgamer View Post
    To the point, tyranny always fears an armed populace, which is the primary reason for the Second Amendment. Our own incipient oppression would be much farther down the line towards its Marxist goals, without fear of people like me who ... despite my age ... am perfectly willing to go to the bush and make revolution. That, if the One Party decides to take my guns, or even tax them heavily.
    Oh poppycock. Stop pretending guns have something to do with tyranny. Especially if you're Republican. The Republicans willing bent over, despite their opposition to homosexuals, and took it up the arse from the Bush administration signing away all their rights. Bush has spied on every single little thing you do, say or type but not a shot was fired in his direction. A far worse infringement of liberty than taxing you a little bit more. Hell, Bush even taxed you all more. Still no revolution.

    What all this revolution talk is, is pathetic little cry baby Republicans who cannot take the fact their campaign where abortion and gay marriage took centre stage instead of economics, education and health care failed miserably, their old man, formerly the best Republican ever before selling out to the racist, bigoted religious extremists, got tired and their ugly stupid woman was sent back to the Alaskan wilderness.

    Now, enough false dick waving from the ''uber cool revolution 09 LOL'' crowd, less retarded tea bagging demonstrations and a bit more ''lets get down to business opposing the atrocious spending bills the Democrats are putting through, and while we're at it, lets make ourselves more electable, instead of threatening revolution when we don;t get our way and the people vote for a socialist''

    Then maybe, just maybe, this sad sad act can come to a close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Яome kb8 View Post
    Oh poppycock. Stop pretending guns have something to do with tyranny. Especially if you're Republican. The Republicans willing bent over, despite their opposition to homosexuals, and took it up the arse from the Bush administration signing away all their rights. Bush has spied on every single little thing you do, say or type but not a shot was fired in his direction. A far worse infringement of liberty than taxing you a little bit more. Hell, Bush even taxed you all more. Still no revolution.

    What all this revolution talk is, is pathetic little cry baby Republicans who cannot take the fact their campaign where abortion and gay marriage took centre stage instead of economics, education and health care failed miserably, their old man, formerly the best Republican ever before selling out to the racist, bigoted religious extremists, got tired and their ugly stupid woman was sent back to the Alaskan wilderness.

    Now, enough false dick waving from the ''uber cool revolution 09 LOL'' crowd, less retarded tea bagging demonstrations and a bit more ''lets get down to business opposing the atrocious spending bills the Democrats are putting through, and while we're at it, lets make ourselves more electable, instead of threatening revolution when we don;t get our way and the people vote for a socialist''

    Then maybe, just maybe, this sad sad act can come to a close.
    I think someone fired an M-16 a few years ago into the windows of the White House, for like, a second. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it happened.

    Just sayin', since I agree with basically the rest of your post.

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    We Americans need to keep it, but we'll keep it anyway, it's bounded in the Constitution, and no one can wipe it off, at least not easily. It's what our Founding Fathers had in store for every American citizen, as a basic right. The right to bear arms, legally. This is not something that is legal in very many countries of the world right now. Americans are privileged to have this right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George W. Bush View Post
    We Americans need to keep it, but we'll keep it anyway, it's bounded in the Constitution, and no one can wipe it off, at least not easily. It's what our Founding Fathers had in store for every American citizen, as a basic right. The right to bear arms, legally. This is not something that is legal in very many countries of the world right now. Americans are privileged to have this right.
    says the man who did the most damage to the constitution of all the presidents we've had in the history of this country.

    your humor made me laugh heartedly, guy who decided to username himself George W Bush.


    I actually liked a shirt one of my friends was wearing, "if guns kill people, pencils misspell words"

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Rob View Post
    says the man who did the most damage to the constitution of all the presidents we've had in the history of this country.
    History fail.

    We had US citizens in interment camps because they MIGHT be sympathetic to Japan. Thats just one thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    History fail.

    We had US citizens in interment camps because they MIGHT be sympathetic to Japan. Thats just one thing.
    Then we need to get rid of the priviledges that Executives seem to think they can assume in wartime. It's contrary to our democratic principles.

    Bush/Cheney made a massive assault of the 4th amendment and to some an attack on the 8th amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    History fail.

    We had US citizens in interment camps because they MIGHT be sympathetic to Japan. Thats just one thing.
    actually they interned italians and germans too, but I'm not exactly sure if they were also sent to the desert. I actually did a report on it last year.

    Sorry about my exaggeration.

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    I think the Second Amendment intended to keep armed militia as a possible option, and occurred in context of an ongoing debate about "the people" fighting governmental tyranny. It is not needed now, since the British are overthrown and democracy prevailed.

    I simply can't ignore the fact of all the recent shootings in the U.S.

    Mindless violence often used in the "heat of the moment" seems to occupy about 70% percent of the "shootings" stories I read, 15% by some mentally disturbed person, 5% gang related the other 10% going to various reasons including extremism, pre med murder and robberies etc.

    Now looking at that (I'm not saying that is exactly how things pan out, just by news circulation in the media) the top two reasons could easily be avoided by taking away the right to own firearms, simply by making it more difficult to obtain firearms.

    I'm not saying it won't ever happen again, but it's certainly food for thought.

    I think it's time Americans reliquinshed their right to own firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWizard View Post
    I think the Second Amendment intended to keep armed militia as a possible option, and occurred in context of an ongoing debate about "the people" fighting governmental tyranny. It is not needed now, since the British are overthrown and democracy prevailed.

    I simply can't ignore the fact of all the recent shootings in the U.S.

    Mindless violence often used in the "heat of the moment" seems to occupy about 70% percent of the "shootings" stories I read, 15% by some mentally disturbed person, 5% gang related the other 10% going to various reasons including extremism, pre med murder and robberies etc.

    Now looking at that (I'm not saying that is exactly how things pan out, just by news circulation in the media) the top two reasons could easily be avoided by taking away the right to own firearms, simply by making it more difficult to obtain firearms.

    I'm not saying it won't ever happen again, but it's certainly food for thought.

    I think it's time Americans reliquinshed their right to own firearms.
    I disagree with you, only the law abiding citizens will give up their guns, the criminals will keep theirs and thus crime will go up, just like it did in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWizard View Post
    I think the Second Amendment intended to keep armed militia as a possible option, and occurred in context of an ongoing debate about "the people" fighting governmental tyranny. It is not needed now, since the British are overthrown and democracy prevailed.

    I simply can't ignore the fact of all the recent shootings in the U.S.

    Mindless violence often used in the "heat of the moment" seems to occupy about 70% percent of the "shootings" stories I read, 15% by some mentally disturbed person, 5% gang related the other 10% going to various reasons including extremism, pre med murder and robberies etc.

    Now looking at that (I'm not saying that is exactly how things pan out, just by news circulation in the media) the top two reasons could easily be avoided by taking away the right to own firearms, simply by making it more difficult to obtain firearms.

    I'm not saying it won't ever happen again, but it's certainly food for thought.

    I think it's time Americans reliquinshed their right to own firearms.
    Although I totally agree with you, I'd say that the News and press are probably a greater cause of the teenage shootings than the easily accessible firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerWizard View Post
    I think the Second Amendment intended to keep armed militia as a possible option, and occurred in context of an ongoing debate about "the people" fighting governmental tyranny. It is not needed now, since the British are overthrown and democracy prevailed.

    I simply can't ignore the fact of all the recent shootings in the U.S.

    Mindless violence often used in the "heat of the moment" seems to occupy about 70% percent of the "shootings" stories I read, 15% by some mentally disturbed person, 5% gang related the other 10% going to various reasons including extremism, pre med murder and robberies etc.

    Now looking at that (I'm not saying that is exactly how things pan out, just by news circulation in the media) the top two reasons could easily be avoided by taking away the right to own firearms, simply by making it more difficult to obtain firearms.

    I'm not saying it won't ever happen again, but it's certainly food for thought.

    I think it's time Americans reliquinshed their right to own firearms.
    Hate to break the bad news, but the 2nd Amendment was added and ratified after the war with Britain was over.

    Your use of statistics is comical. The News media presents us with stories of atrocities because that is the only thing that increases viewership.

    Guns don't kill people by themselves. They have important uses besides robberies. Just as cars have important uses besides drunk driving.

    I have a right to defend my home from invaders. I have the right to protect my life and property. I can't do that with a phone call and a 5-10 minute wait for the police to show up. So, unless you are going to finance the population with panic rooms I suggest you amend your ideas to reality.

    Banning guns won't stop gun crime any more than banning drugs has stopped substance abuse or teaching abstinence prevents sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nietzsche View Post
    Hate to break the bad news, but the 2nd Amendment was added and ratified after the war with Britain was over.
    Yes, and when the US didn't have an army.

    Whats cheaper than hiring an army? Oh ya, let people protect themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    Yes, and when the US didn't have an army.

    Whats cheaper than hiring an army? Oh ya, let people protect themselves.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Army

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army

    Whoops

    Valiant effort though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nietzsche View Post
    ...The continental army wasn't kept for the articles of confederation...there was only state militia.

    Valiant Effort though.

    Granted the 2nd amendment was signed at the very start of our federal government, but we still didn't really have a federal army at that point.
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