revolutionar soul-any point anymore?

[dogukan]

So 1 May is coming. Back in the day, in Turkey a lot of well educated students(during 60s-80s) called themselves revolutionists. There were fights between left and right wing (illegal)organisations. Many valuable people simply dissapeared. People rushed into universities and killed professors for their ideologies.
My teachers tell me how high school students had this soul back in the day. Like they'd protest and not join lessons, they'd go to fights carrying knives...etc
Basically it wasn't safe but there was a point in these fights...because there were two worlds. Soviets vs West

Today this has changed a lot. There aren't Fidels(well not like back in the day), Che's anymore...nor there is point in attacking your own government in many countries.
Imagine you're not in a so western country....would you you attack police putting your life into risk? What would be the point? How could these revolutionary people achieve their goals? Why have they came to this position today....
In Turkey the left had been crushed in the last coup(AMerican supported coup so that Turkey doesnt go pro-Soviet)...this in turn made the country right wing is stronger. And these old revolutionary people are now sitting at home drinking whatever alcohol they find.

Now to be honest, I like this soul. I can say I'm pretty left minded person....and I have friends who are extreme. And there'll be protests in certain places. Some are legal...but of course some will be illegal. Police closed the Taksim square...and these organisations(which have lost a lot of strength) are planning to go there and fight the police. Well I'm ok with all this protesting thing but today some guys attacked the police. And in the firefight a police and a 16 year old along with the attacker died. This scared me a little. Because back in the day, these protesting crowds were attacked by provacators. It wasn't happening for a while but this latest event is not a good sign.
And since left is pretty much crushed, these illegal protesters are mainly related to PKK(the terror organisation)...and most are Kurds(not that I'm racist, but these "Kurds" are generally related to PKK-it is like protesting government is equal to being a seperatist whereas a lot of people are actually there for a good future in this country). My friend told me how they prepared their masks, stones and stuff to attack the police and defend themselves from gas)
I was planning to go too but I thought these preparations are too much.
What could be the point in attacking the police? How are you going to do revolutions by attacking police like this? It only makes these people more alien to society. People view them as terrorists and automatically(with the influence of past coups) evil communists making people more pro-police/right wing, or as these people call, fascists.

So would you go to a protest when your life won't be safe to fight for a cause which has missed it's point?

Ok I'll put it like this....imagine your country is ruled by harsh sharia laws...and some people who are almost exiled from the society still have the guts to protest it. But what they do is simply vandalizing and attacking people who do their duty. Some might be "bad" cops but there are good ones too.

[Treize]

To much revolutionairy soul is not good, to few neither.
Here most people don't give a about politics and will eat everything the goverment tells them.
But you DO have a slight problem if you want to cut down a tree or if it is football related...

[dogukan]

To much revolutionairy soul is not good, to few neither.
Here most people don't give a about politics and will eat everything the goverment tells them.
But you DO have a slight problem if you want to cut down a tree or if it is football related...

yeah some people take it to an extreme level....it's like they do not talk of anything else but "revolution" they heard from there and there.
I personally find it pointless to go and attack at police for no reason...but the reason I'm pro-protesters is becaue of the attitude of the god damned police. They beat people beacuse they are psychos. I can not say this for everyone doing their duty but a lot of them are really bad tempered guys around here.