Egypt walls

[ffnic55]

Hey great mod and all however i was playing as the seleucid empire and i attacked egypts city of tyre on around the 5th turn off my campaign i didn't take any rams just seige towers and ladders. I proceded to take the city walls in an attempt to take the gate house. After a 30 min fight for the walls i moved to the gate .. but there is no way to move onto it and no exits into their city from the walls, i then tried moving my troops off the walls to try and take the gate down with elephants but the my seige towers suddenly killed almost 2000 of my palanx pikeman causeing me to more or less lose my empire as i attacked with 2 ai contolled armys as well and they did the same thing apperently. In all i lost around 6000 troops in that battle... to my own hungry seige towers.

[Blade0815]

hi

where there any egyptian ballistas in the town? because they are able to attack siege towers when these are on the walls, this causes the towers to break and kill the infantry inside.
i'm not really sure about your first problem...
did you moved your troops on the gates and they didn't change the owner?
and you wasn't able to move troops from the walls into the city? sounds pretty strange and never occured to me
and one last thing: never let the ai controll one of your armies but i think that is something you learned

[Knight of Heaven]

the walls have towers and they fire balistas ammo maybe thats why your siege towers got destroyed!!? never saw walls with no exits to the city...thats very weird! also are you sure you take the gate in the wall? if theres an enemy there a single one, it wont change the owner you got to have a unit there without enemies. i also used to suck in siege battles but i learn that u need to have pacience. thats a tip, i normaly dont build ladders only siege towers 2 max and 1 or 2 rams, and most important build at least 2 sapping points is important to not rush your troops into the walls right away, take your time wait for the sapping team made the breach on the walls, is important to spread their attention. as for getting the AI control your armies well i guess is up to you but i only do it when i feel i realy need. (i like to conserve my mens).but since u playing selucids, dont worry with the lost 6000 mens just build anothers army and try again.lol

[ffnic55]

Well i sent the ai armys in more or less to keep the defenders busy but this was an early game wall so no ballistas just lots of arrows .. i killed all defenders on the walls i tied them down with 4 units of pikeman then moved my archers peltest and horse skirmishers to kill them while they fought my infantry i only took about 20 losses agaist them so i moved my infantry i had on the wall to the gate house but it was like there was an invisable wall and could not move close enough .. so i tried moving my guys into the city off the wall to take it from behind but there are no little doors on the enemy side of the wall to move my troops off ... the reason my troops died was probably becuase i had too many of them climbing down the towers full 250 man units turned to 47 in seconds i the towers where never actualy destroyed. Normaly i would of took them off one at a time but becuase of this hold up on the walls i had to move it to meet the 1 hour time limit ... i always forget to turn that off. I didn't save either becuase i thought it was an easy victory and was just going to be my base for attacks further into egypt. Normaly i just ram or dig under walls but since i had so many men i risked the loss just to be more interesting i like wall fights... and i don't like raming when there is boiling oil. In all its funny now but at the time i was ready to punch my computer through the wall. So maybe the walls need to be looked at? Anyone who wants to see what happend just try the same thing as SE and attack tyrus i think its called early in the game.

[Blade0815]

I just did some quick testing and it seems like there is a bug. You can't move an unit on any gate in Tyros because there is a tiny field units can't cross roght before a gate. But I was able to send troops from the walls through the towers into the city so no problem there.
I'm a little busy atm so no time for testing other cities in egypt.
I asked for ballistas because they can destroy siege towers that got contact to a wall but when yours never got destroyed... wierd

[Gauliez]

Seconded what Blade0815 and ffnic55 pointed out. With some screenies, cause I know you all love so much pictures.

So, the problem has visibly to do with the Egyptian Stone Wall. You indeed cannot capture the Portal to open the gates, which can quickly become quite cripling in fact. Just before the entry of the side door, you cannot walk on the wall.
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I don't know if the problem is still here with higher level walls, but what is sure is that you'd better not count on taking the gates when in campaign against Egypt. Rather rely on sapping or holding siege till the end I guess.

[lt1956]

The egyptian walls were never added to RTW and hence some fancy modding needed to be done to make the lowest level work. The gathouses are bugged in that you cannot cross the top of them, but the Other stuff works. Please dont post cheats if there are any one the walls. Thanks.

Lt

[saienga]

Remember gents, one does not need to actually stand over the gates on the wall to capture them. If you sap the walls or scale them, just bring your men down the other towers to ground level...If you surround the gate and drive off the defenders, the gate is yours from the ground-level on the inside.

Or, you know, just sap the loving crap out of the walls.