Calls to ban 'nasty, racist' BNP members from nursing

[wilpuri]

Calls to ban 'nasty, racist' BNP members from nursing

21 April, 2009

Members of the BNP should be banned from being nurses, according to a motion passed at Unison’s Health Care Service Group Conference today.

Delegates voted unanimously in favour of the motion, submitted by the National Nursing Sector, which calls for a law to prevent BNP members becoming nurses.

It also calls for support from the NMC, which states that nurses should not discriminate against patients on the basis of race, but does not ban BNP membership outright.

Proposing the motion, Mick McKeown, nursing sector committee member, said that the racist views of the BNP were incompatible with the public service ethos of nursing.

He said: ‘The main thrust of this motion is to say that membership of the BNP is completely incompatible with public service, particularly as a nurse within the NHS.

‘Despite how they try and portray themselves, the BNP is a nasty, racist, Nazi party.’

He added that the BNP would discriminate against patients on the basis of skin colour if it ran the health service.

‘They say on their website they would like to give nurses a pay rise - but the other thing they say is that the healthcare should be for the white majority. What they say is British healthcare for British people.’

Mr McKeown added that the NHS was founded on immigrant labour and that one of its major strengths has been the diversity of its workforce.

‘The NHS could not have happened without immigration and the contribution of overseas nurses,’ he added.

UNISON will now raise the issue with the Department of Health to establish legal powers barring members of the BNP and other racist groups from being members of Unison.

It will also ask the NMC to support its stance and issue interim advice for nurses on the standards expected of them regarding anti-discriminatory practice.

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Keep on rockin' in the free world.

Disclaimer: I think BNP sucks. I'm just waiting for people to come and defend these motions as being in defense of democracy/free speech/whatever. Just like they defended BNP members being banned from being police officers.

[Pious Agnost]

I can dig it

[Helm]

Well would ethinic minorities want to be cared for by someone who essentially hates their guts?

[wilpuri]

Well would ethinic minorities want to be cared for by someone who essentially hates their guts?

Would you like to be barred from certain proffessions because of membership in legal political party, even when your political opinions are not affecting your work?

See, already we have a democracy-lover here.

[Helm]

See, already we have a democracy-lover here.

But don't the potential pateints get to have a say as to the kind of people they would rather not have caring for them?

[Tominokar]

Would you like to be barred from certain proffessions because of membership in legal political party, even when your political opinions are not affecting your work?

How do you know thier opinions are not affecting their work? I don't think they should be 'banned' outright, but definately monitered for discrimination. As the article says, part of the BNPs ethos is British healthcare for British people, and working in healthcare, this must be one of the primary issues a nurse looks at when becoming a BNP member. It's very likely that they'd treat their foreign coworkers/patients differently if they don't think they should even be allowed in the hospital/clinic.

[Dr. Croccer]

And I should sympathise, why? They want to strip the rights from all ethnic minorities, I can't see why we can't return the favour.

Would you like to be barred from certain proffessions because of membership in legal political party, even when your political opinions are not affecting your work?

Bit of an apples and pears. The BNP is a nazi party, their very point is to discriminate. Their political opinions could quite easily affect their work.

[danzig]

And I should sympathise, why? They want to strip the rights from all ethnic minorities, I can't see why we can't return the favour.

Then basically valid their views and become no different....

[Erik]

I'm just waiting for people to come and defend these motions as being in defense of democracy/free speech/whatever.

I would say: screw free speech, this is in defense of patients.

Would you like to be barred from certain proffessions because of membership in legal political party, even when your political opinions are not affecting your work?

The point is: it will affect their work because the BNP doesn't want to provide health care to blackies.

[Pious Agnost]

Supposing I were the target of BNP aggression (Not sure who they hate most), I wouldn't want Nazi-Nurse over there in control of my Morphine

[wilpuri]

I would say: screw free speech, this is in defense of patients.

From what?

The point is: it will affect their work because the BNP doesn't want to provide health care to blackies.

Then they should be fired for being incompetent, not for belonging to a political party.

But don't the potential pateints get to have a say as to the kind of people they would rather not have caring for them?

How do you mean?

In Finland we have many old people being taken care of by people who don't even speak their language, and they don't get a say. Society is sick when we need to import foreigners to take care of our parents and grandparents because we don't have time/energy/money.

[Fiyenyaa]

In Finland we have many old people being taken care of by people who don't even speak their language, and they don't get a say. Society is sick when we need to import foreigners to take care of our parents and grandparents because we don't have time/energy/money.

Society isn't sick when this happens. Society's average age is increasing when this happens.

[Erik]

Society isn't sick when this happens. Society's average age is increasing when this happens.

Also: apparently most Fins are too highly educated to be doing simple jobs like nursing. - a GOOD thing from a Finnish perspective.

[wilpuri]

Society isn't sick when this happens. Society's average age is increasing when this happens.

Yeah, its real healthy when we are so immersed in working and consuming that we no longer reproduce above the replacement rate, we don't have time to take care of our own parents and we think its ok that our nation is gradually replaced with foreign labour from the third world, at the same time as our own productive industries are being stripped and shipped off to countries where people work like slaves so we could spend the money we get from our jobs on slightly cheaper phones and t-shirts.

Also: apparently most Fins are too highly educated to be doing simple jobs like nursing. - a GOOD thing from a Finnish perspective.

It usually means that the pay is so low that Finns won't do those jobs. I've been at work sites were eastern Europeans do the same job for 1/5th of the price a Finn would do it for. How are we supposed to compete with that.

[Fiyenyaa]

Yeah, its real healthy when we are so immersed in working and consuming that we no longer reproduce above the replacement rate, we don't have time to take care of our own parents and we think its ok that our nation is gradually replaced with foreign labour from the third world, at the same time as our own productive industries are being stripped and shipped off to countries where people work like slaves so we could spend the money we get from our jobs on slightly cheaper phones and t-shirts.

Population growth isn't the goal of human existence.

It usually means that the pay is so low that Finns won't do those jobs. I've been at work sites were eastern Europeans do the same job for 1/5th of the price a Finn would do it for. How are we supposed to compete with that.

If these eastern europeans can survive on such wages, anyone in the same country can. It's called having a work ethic.

[Erik]

It usually means that the pay is so low that Finns won't do those jobs. I've been at work sites were eastern Europeans do the same job for 1/5th of the price a Finn would do it for. How are we supposed to compete with that.

The point is: if the Finns weren't this good off, they would be more than happy to do those jobs at that pay.

Many of them come to work for a short period of time with provided housing. Wages so low are beneath minimum wage and are paid by a foreign company that works for a Finnish company that... and so on.

Who pays for their housing?

[Armfelt]

Yeah, its real healthy when we are so immersed in working and consuming that we no longer reproduce above the replacement rate

I think it is very healthy to not have children just to keep up a replacement rate.

[Dr. Croccer]

Essentially it is democracy because the UNISON unanimously voted for BNP members to be banned.

It's a moot, beacuse they're not getting banned.

It also calls for support from the NMC, which states that nurses should not discriminate against patients on the basis of race, but does not ban BNP membership outright

[Arto]

Let's not ban the BNP, let's just annoy them until their sick of it.

[Treize]

Should political minorities be discriminated?