Why are you still playing MTW or Shogun?

[gromda]

because there's something about the campaign map makes it interesting. I don't bother with battlefield maps. It's a bit like chess. Just reloaded Shogun after playing empire.

[Titvs]

The "token" movement and map, and of course SUPERIOR AI. I mean, vanilla-wise, MTW and STW ai has managed to surprise me quite a few times, and is a great terrain chooser, even with NTW. Rome wise, darth formations and ai mod has taken out some "features" like suicidal generals or absurd flaking maneouvres (flanking elite with skirmishers, 1 to 3). Of course MTW2 has NO AI whatsoever, i bought it as soon as it reached the shops here in Spain... What a dissapointment, glowing units, nerfed stats (but to my amazement shorter battles)... Eye candy and nothing else.

Roma surrectum, ntw2, pike and musket and NTW are the main reasons for me to keep playing TW games, dont start me with Empire ,i wont play it... Not in my PC-1512 (short of), got neither a Über Machinen nor the intention to buy one.

I know is out of the topic, but something that makes me very very sad is how TW franchise has taken that short of movements towards higher poligon counts, and less work on the AI. It seems someone thinks that general turned suckers as time kept going on (STW: great Ai, high troop mortality with long and drawn out battles with a few surprises; MTW: Nice AI, nerfed by the fact that it has too many possibilities choosing units or paths, bu nevertheless some great battles, cavalry charges and shielded feudal knights . RTW : someone decided to make units RUN LIKE HELL moving around battles (battles which themselves lasted much less than previous TWs), that meant frenzied movements in boring terrains (both things are adressed by some GREAT mods like Rome surrectum or RTR), and top of it units that come from the imagination of CA team, which, in my opinion, DO NOT BELONG there. MTW2: eye candy... and nothing else; no ai at all, just some child moving stacks around.

My two cents: Titvs Atreides

[cegorach]

As a modder I've always enjoyed seemingly infinite possibilities the game gives for one person/small team.

As a player I've always liked the difficulty, playing on expert in some mods you can get nice looking features like this:

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That was fun.

[Trobalov]

Even though I haven't tried the Latest of TW series much,(lack of free time) I still consider Medieval Total War 1 the best piece of this "puzzle" by far.


By the way, Hi all! I haven't logged here for like 5 years


Trobalov

[jigga]

Steam

[fatrobin]

if i still had them, or could find them (i think i know where med1 is but would have to download the redux mod to make it work on my shiney new computers (or so i believe)) i would still be playing them because of the ease and speed of the campaign map game, i would still ignore most of the actual battle map stuff because i am too used to med2 (even going back to rome confuses me sometimes)

so yes i would still play them, and it is because the campaigns were so nicely made (that and the shogun ninja movies)

[Warhammster]

I wish I had my old computer so I could play these amazing games again, the new Total War games got nothing on MTW and STW Unfortunately every time I try to install MTW on my modern PC it doesn't even allow the installer to start

[Axalon]

Steam

Haha, that's a good one!

[GeneralSturnn]

IMO Medieval: total war is best total War(between it and Medieval II) but then because my Medieval won't work properly on my Vista... I have to play Medieval II.



Edit: wow... I didn't read, lol... I saw I posted alot later....

[Basileos Leandros I]

Medieval TW is one of my favourite games of all time, and it is the best TW too.

[Kiwiphoenix]

M1TW a wonderfully chaotic feel to it. In no other TW game could you land yourself in a full-scale civil war by calling unsuccessful hits on your own sons. Cities would plunge into revolution almost at random, and you didn't get a nice clean break-down telling you why they were unhappy - you just had to do something and hope it worked. Entire countries didn't vanish from the Earth because their kind died without an heir. You could fight the Pope and win.

All in all, in M1, you kind of felt like a king - you could be the leader of the most powerful empire on Earth, but you were never omnipotent, and you still never get a moment's peace.
In the more recent titles, you're a god. You see everything, know everything, and can do anything... and somehow there's just less fun in that.

[JackoHaddo]

Used to play this game when i didn't know that medieval 2 total war was out. I tried it the other day but the graphics were terrible. And the little statues looked odd.

[A Demented Goldfish]

XL mod, without it i'd be lost to empire and mtw2 (i play nappy but not much) , i play all of them exept RTW and Shougun because i've finally gotten bored of those after about 11 years of total war

[eugenioso]

The "token" movement and map, and of course SUPERIOR AI. I mean, vanilla-wise, MTW and STW ai has managed to surprise me quite a few times, and is a great terrain chooser, even with NTW. Rome wise, darth formations and ai mod has taken out some "features" like suicidal generals or absurd flaking maneouvres (flanking elite with skirmishers, 1 to 3). Of course MTW2 has NO AI whatsoever, i bought it as soon as it reached the shops here in Spain... What a dissapointment, glowing units, nerfed stats (but to my amazement shorter battles)... Eye candy and nothing else.

Roma surrectum, ntw2, pike and musket and NTW are the main reasons for me to keep playing TW games, dont start me with Empire ,i wont play it... Not in my PC-1512 (short of), got neither a Über Machinen nor the intention to buy one.

I know is out of the topic, but something that makes me very very sad is how TW franchise has taken that short of movements towards higher poligon counts, and less work on the AI. It seems someone thinks that general turned suckers as time kept going on (STW: great Ai, high troop mortality with long and drawn out battles with a few surprises; MTW: Nice AI, nerfed by the fact that it has too many possibilities choosing units or paths, bu nevertheless some great battles, cavalry charges and shielded feudal knights . RTW : someone decided to make units RUN LIKE HELL moving around battles (battles which themselves lasted much less than previous TWs), that meant frenzied movements in boring terrains (both things are adressed by some GREAT mods like Rome surrectum or RTR), and top of it units that come from the imagination of CA team, which, in my opinion, DO NOT BELONG there. MTW2: eye candy... and nothing else; no ai at all, just some child moving stacks around.

My two cents: Titvs Atreides

this is... this is gonna make me cry this is so true. i have tried to tell everyone else this but the words cant be found. its good to know someone understands.

[Squiggle]

MTW is way better than RTW. Both campaign wise and actual battles, its actually hard, etc. The only thing that disappointed me in MTW was never finding a mod that improved the Viking campaign in VI. That was so whofully inadequate given how interesting an idea it was. If anyone knows of such a mod, please post here or send me a pm.

[Prince of Judah]

I'm not playing it because no one on earth can tell me how to stop the game from lagging during battles with no reason at all. the game freezes then unfreezes constantly. it makes me want to do a ritual sacrifice to Ba'al of a certain company's employees.

[CarthagianNewbie]

Been quite a while since playing MTW to its conclusion...waiting, and waiting for your navies to eventually whittle down the enemy ship to take Rhodes, Malta, and Crete can be tiresome...but for an afternoon it still offers great opportunities for epic battles. Battles that last 2 hours or more (always quite annoyed when RTW expects my besieging army to complete the assault in 15 minutes -- why did I bring all these guys to the battle, if not to use them).

[Xerrop]

Well when the campaign is in it´s midgame or endgame state you should have enough navies to control the seas.
Or do you try to take Rhodes, Malta or Crete at the beginning?

[Dr. Croccer]

It's far suerior to all the new nonsense..

[CarthagianNewbie]

I'm a fan of playing the English in MTW (love the range of the Welsh Longbow); so as you might guess there are a lot of intermediate seas to occupy with your navy before seizing control of the Mediterranean...3 years/per caravel adds up.