Broken Update To BETA8

[dvk901]

Usually, I am not one to give up....but I give up. Tghe Campaign continues to CTD around the 20-22 turn mrk during the Roman turn every single time, and I just cannot find what is doing this.
Squid and or Calvin, I would appreciate your checking this out and seeing if you can discover what is wrong...otherwise I will have to start from scratch with this update. It will install fine into RS2_Beta8, loads fine, and 'appears' fine. Custom Battles are fine.....everything is fine except this blasted CTD!! If you can\do figure out what it is, please provide the file\s so I can get this working.

All others, don't install this into your working BETA8 unless you copy the directory to a new one and install it there.
Tone, I did not install any trees yet because I want to get this fixed first. Sorry.

http://files.filefront.com/Broke+Upd.../fileinfo.html

[Calvin]

Downloading it now.

[Calvin]

Ok, there's definitely something wrong here. I started a test campaign as Rome and pretty much just kept clicking end turn, with each turn checking every family member. The Roman leadership system is acting very peculiar - some characters get the traits fine, others don't get them at all! About 10 turns in I tried to save the game and it just CTD straight away. I've had a quick glance at the EDCT and descr_strat.txt files and didn't see anything wrong but that was before I tried the campaign. Squids ATVTW tool comes up with no errors.

My own problem is that Squid changed the way the leadership system works so much it is almost unrecognisable to me. He's used antitraits which I'm pretty hazy on, but they should be working. I can't see any reason why the leadership system is acting so unpredictably at all. This is definitely a mystery which will probably keep me up for hours now.

[dvk901]

I am so sorry. I have no idea why this would be so different from BETA8....because as you can see, I really didn't change anything except one referrence to the old 'caravan' building tree building 'silk_rd' in the traits file. I just change the refferrence to it to 'theatre'. That building tree has been removed. That's the ONLY thing I even touched in those files.

[Calvin]

We'll crack it don't worry. Remember, squid is the real professional at traits, when he takes a look I'm sure it'll get sorted.

Meanwhile I'll just keep banging my head against the wall and see if it works

EDIT: I could stick my old unchanged version in and see if it works...

[Calvin]

Well I switched the leadership systems out and my old one works fine, however the game still crashes whenever I save it. So it's either traits I've had nothing to do with causing this, or something else in the game. I haven't reached the 22 turn mark yet, I'll keep going and see what happens, but I'm starting to suspect this could become a very painstaking and laborious process to root out the troublemaker.

EDIT: Save game files are corrupt as well, so I am almost convinced it can't be traits doing it. For one, the game is finishing turns without CTDing at all for at least 10 turns - if there was something wrong with the traits then it would CTD immediately rather than waiting for the game saving. What about the script? That's the only thing I can think of for now that could be the cause of the save game CTD.

[dvk901]

Well I switched the leadership systems out and my old one works fine, however the game still crashes whenever I save it. So it's either traits I've had nothing to do with causing this, or something else in the game. I haven't reached the 22 turn mark yet, I'll keep going and see what happens, but I'm starting to suspect this could become a very painstaking and laborious process to root out the troublemaker.

EDIT: Save game files are corrupt as well, so I am almost convinced it can't be traits doing it. For one, the game is finishing turns without CTDing at all for at least 10 turns - if there was something wrong with the traits then it would CTD immediately rather than waiting for the game saving. What about the script? That's the only thing I can think of for now that could be the cause of the save game CTD.

Turn it off and see. Just comment out the last two lines in 'descr_strat.txt'.

[Calvin]

Nope, that's not it

[dvk901]

I don't think it's the traits. I'm going to have to rebuild this 'blankety-blank' thing. Oh well...back to the drawing board....

[Calvin]

I'll be interested to see if the leadership system works properly when you have rebuilt the update.

[Squid]

Sorry for getting to the party a bit late, but I'm taking a look at it now.

[Squid]

It definitely isn't the traits/ancillaries. I've run using my version of my validator, which checks far more things than my current public release and it's coming back with no errors.

[tone]

Looks like DVK has fixed it - it was some Belgae names

[dvk901]

Correct......names bracketed like this:

[{Joe}

or this:

{{Mary}

Just don't work.

[cherryfunk]

Hey Squid, did you get my PMs?

[Squid]

You sent me PMs?!?!

[pacco]

Again "u"?!

[swhunter]

So we should get this when........?

[The Sloth]

So we should get this when........?

When it's done.

[Squid]

Cherry, click on my name in a post and PM me that way, otherwise you might not get the letters correct. I think your PMs have gone the same way as DVKs did for a few weeks.