Provincial campaign descriptions

**HouseOfHam** · April 24, 2009, 08:55 PM

Where to put them? Not faction descriptions for provincial campaigns, but for the provincial campaigns themselves.

- Putting
{PROV_CAMP_TITLE} Blah
into campaign_descriptions.txt only sets the title in the list

- Changing description.txt in the campaign directory has no effect.

- There is more than one, so changing NO_DESCRIPTION in menu_english.txt is not an option.

**Augustus Lucifer** · April 24, 2009, 09:43 PM

Which description text are you referring to? The one when you select it from the provincial select screen and text appears in the box to the right?

I know the provincial campaign I worked on for M2 changed the description.txt file, but then that's for M2(was my understanding though that it was legacy code from Rome). The problem I've been having isn't the description itself but the name above the description box on the right hand side of the selection screen. Odd.

It's possible modifying one of these lines in the menu_english might work(looking at M2, but they seem to be in Rome as well):

Code:

{UI_PROVINCIAL_CAMPAIGN_DESCRIPTION}Campaign Description
{UI_PROVINCIAL_CAMPAIGN_SELECT}Select Campaign
{UI_PROVINCIAL_CAMPAIGN_SELECT_FACTION}Select a faction
{UI_PROVINCIAL_CAMPAIGN_SELECT_TOOLTIP}Select custom campaign
{UI_PROVINCIAL_CAMPAIGN_TITLE}Custom Campaigns

Either appending the name of the campaign(based on folder or what it's called in the descr_strat) after "PROVINCIAL_CAMPAIGN" or perhaps in place of it. For example:

Code:

{UI_PROVINCIAL_CAMPAIGN_MY_CAMPAIGN_DESCRIPTION}Campaign Description
{UI_PROVINCIAL_CAMPAIGN_MY_CAMPAIGN_SELECT}Select Campaign
{UI_PROVINCIAL_CAMPAIGN_MY_CAMPAIGN_SELECT_FACTION}Select a faction
{UI_PROVINCIAL_CAMPAIGN_MY_CAMPAIGN_SELECT_TOOLTIP}Select custom campaign
{UI_PROVINCIAL_CAMPAIGN_MY_CAMPAIGN_TITLE}Custom Campaigns

or

{UI_MY_CAMPAIGN_DESCRIPTION}Campaign Description
{UI_MY_CAMPAIGN_SELECT}Select Campaign
{UI_MY_CAMPAIGN_SELECT_FACTION}Select a faction
{UI_MY_CAMPAIGN_SELECT_TOOLTIP}Select custom campaign
{UI_MY_CAMPAIGN_TITLE}Custom Campaigns

Lastly consider specifying the string in "expanded.txt". Like:

Code:

{MY_CAMPAIGN}My Campaign
{MY_CAMPAIGN_DESCR}Here's my desc
{MY_CAMPAIGN_DESC}Here's my desc
{MY_CAMPAIGN_DESCRIPTION}Here's my desc

**HouseOfHam** · April 24, 2009, 10:54 PM

Never mind. Moving provincial campaign folders into campaign\custom got the game to read descriptions from descriptions.txt

**Augustus Lucifer** · April 24, 2009, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by HouseOfHam

Never mind. Moving provincial campaign folders into campaign\custom got the game to read descriptions from descriptions.txt

Okay. And I found out how the text above the description is determined. It's based on whatever text is in the descr_strat line for the Provincial Campaign. So you can set that line to "Monkey" and it will read Monkey, but everything else will have no description since there's no Monkey_X strings. It has no impact on the game files, it's purely a string line.

Which begs the question if it's possible to include string references with spaces in them. And if so what would they look like within the string.

**HouseOfHam** · April 25, 2009, 01:00 AM

Which bring me to the next question. Have you gotten the I_MapName condition to work?

**Augustus Lucifer** · April 25, 2009, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by HouseOfHam

Which bring me to the next question. Have you gotten the I_MapName condition to work?

I haven't used it personally. It doesn't make sense to use it in a script, because scripts are local to the campaign. It rather would be used in a file in the data folder, like Ancillaries, Traits, Advice, or etc. It's used in the vanilla advice with this syntax:

Code:

and not I_MapName data/world/maps/campaign/norman_prologue/descr_strat.txt

Should work with path to the descr_strat in the three above files.

Code:

and I_MapName data/world/maps/campaign/custom/RTR-TIC/descr_strat.txt

Or whatever.

**HouseOfHam** · April 26, 2009, 01:03 AM

I'm trying to use it in export_descr_advice.txt. There is a set of triggers for each campaign that should start the appropriate script... except I can't get them to work, even though that's exactly what I tried.

**HouseOfHam** · April 26, 2009, 05:08 AM

UHHHHHH!!!! I'll be damned! I've been trying it with

Code:

          and I_MapName FOE/Data/world/maps/campaign/custom/the_iberian_conflict/descr_strat.txt

and it would not work, even though that's exactly what the path is, but I finally tried it with

Code:

          and I_MapName FOE/data/world/maps/campaign/custom/the_iberian_conflict/descr_strat.txt

and it finally worked! They probably have a hard-coded format string somewhere in the exe that looks like %s/data/world/maps/campaign/%s so it must be exactly as they have it or it won't work.

**MasterOfNone** · April 26, 2009, 08:51 AM

You, see that's what happens when you make a big d out of everything

Could one of you explain exactly what this does, btw - sounds like it may be of use. Thanks.

**Augustus Lucifer** · April 27, 2009, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by HouseOfHam

UHHHHHH!!!! I'll be damned! I've been trying it with

Code:

          and I_MapName FOE/Data/world/maps/campaign/custom/the_iberian_conflict/descr_strat.txt

and it would not work, even though that's exactly what the path is, but I finally tried it with

Code:

          and I_MapName FOE/data/world/maps/campaign/custom/the_iberian_conflict/descr_strat.txt

and it finally worked! They probably have a hard-coded format string somewhere in the exe that looks like %s/data/world/maps/campaign/%s so it must be exactly as they have it or it won't work.

Probably. The game is known to use UNIX path tendencies for a variety of things. I'm not sure if this is an instance of it or not, but capitalization plays a factor in paths on a website as well.

@ MoN:

Pretty much what he said. I'm not familiar with the limitations of the Rome background campaign script or the docudemons, though. In M2 at least you could do something like:

Code:

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal

if I_MapName etc/etc/etc1
set_event_counter Map_1 1
set_event_counter Map_2 0
set_event_counter Map_3 0
end_if

if I_MapName etc/etc/etc2
set_event_counter Map_1 0
set_event_counter Map_2 1
set_event_counter Map_3 0
end_if

if I_MapName etc/etc/etc3
set_event_counter Map_1 0
set_event_counter Map_2 0
set_event_counter Map_3 1
end_if

terminate_monitor
end_monitor

And then use those event counters in most of the files from the data folder. Not sure if Rome has event counters or not, if they are accepted in the advice file, or if a monitor like that is possible. As such the I_MapName command being used directly in files is a good half-step. The downside with that compared to the above method is event counters(at least in M2) also work in the EDB, Mercenaries file, etc.

**HouseOfHam** · April 27, 2009, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Augustus Lucifer

Probably. The game is known to use UNIX path tendencies for a variety of things. I'm not sure if this is an instance of it or not, but capitalization plays a factor in paths on a website as well.

This isn't about using UNIX-like paths. It's more of a problem with CA hard-coding strings in their code, then using a case-sensitive strcmp on them.

Originally Posted by Augustus Lucifer

In M2 at least you could do something like: ...
And then use those event counters in most of the files from the data folder. Not sure if Rome has event counters or not, if they are accepted in the advice file, or if a monitor like that is possible. As such the I_MapName command being used directly in files is a good half-step. The downside with that compared to the above method is event counters(at least in M2) also work in the EDB, Mercenaries file, etc.

Event counters are not supported in RTW. The only places you can use docudemon_conditions, other than in a script, are in export_descr_advice, export_descr_character_traits, and export_descr_ancillaries triggers.

**HouseOfHam** · April 26, 2009, 02:13 PM

It's for making triggers that only apply to a specific provincial campaign. In my case, the TIC provincial campaign starts on a different date than the main FOE campaign, so it needs a different 4tpy script. The I_MapName condition tells me which campaign it is, so I can then start the appropriate script.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Code:

;=============================
;== RTR VII Advice Threads ===
;=============================

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread BackgroundScriptThread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item BackgroundScriptItem1
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0
        Threshold  1
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title BackgroundScriptTitle1
        On_display scripts\show_me\background_script.txt
        Text BackgroundScriptText1

;------------------------------------------
AdviceThread TICBackgroundScriptThread
    GameArea Campaign

    Item TICBackgroundScriptItem1
        Uninhibitable
        Verbosity  0
        Threshold  1
        MaxRepeats  0
        RepeatInterval  1
        Attitude Normal
        Presentation Default
        Title TICBackgroundScriptTitle1
        On_display scripts\show_me\tic_background_script.txt
        Text TICBackgroundScriptText1


;;; Triggers

;-- FOE Imperial Campaign --
Trigger background_script_trigger_1
    WhenToTest ButtonPressed

    Condition ButtonPressed faction_button
          and I_MapName FOE/data/world/maps/campaign/barbarian_invasion/descr_strat.txt

    AdviceThread BackgroundScriptThread  1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger background_script_trigger_2
    WhenToTest ButtonPressed

    Condition ButtonPressed construction_button
          and I_MapName FOE/data/world/maps/campaign/barbarian_invasion/descr_strat.txt

    AdviceThread BackgroundScriptThread  1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger background_script_trigger_3
    WhenToTest ButtonPressed

    Condition ButtonPressed recruitment_button
          and I_MapName FOE/data/world/maps/campaign/barbarian_invasion/descr_strat.txt

    AdviceThread BackgroundScriptThread  1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger background_script_trigger_4
    WhenToTest SettlementSelected

    Condition I_MapName FOE/data/world/maps/campaign/barbarian_invasion/descr_strat.txt

    AdviceThread BackgroundScriptThread  1

;------------------------------------------

;-- TIC Provincial Campaign --
Trigger TIC_background_script_trigger_1
    WhenToTest ButtonPressed

    Condition ButtonPressed faction_button
          and I_MapName FOE/data/world/maps/campaign/custom/the_iberian_conflict/descr_strat.txt

    AdviceThread TICBackgroundScriptThread  1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger TIC_background_script_trigger_2
    WhenToTest ButtonPressed

    Condition ButtonPressed construction_button
          and I_MapName FOE/data/world/maps/campaign/custom/the_iberian_conflict/descr_strat.txt

    AdviceThread TICBackgroundScriptThread  1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger TIC_background_script_trigger_3
    WhenToTest ButtonPressed

    Condition ButtonPressed recruitment_button
          and I_MapName FOE/data/world/maps/campaign/custom/the_iberian_conflict/descr_strat.txt

    AdviceThread TICBackgroundScriptThread  1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger TIC_background_script_trigger_4
    WhenToTest SettlementSelected

    Condition I_MapName FOE/data/world/maps/campaign/custom/the_iberian_conflict/descr_strat.txt

    AdviceThread TICBackgroundScriptThread  1

;------------------------------------------

It can also be used in a similar manner to make campaign-specific traits and ancillaries.

**Gigantus** · April 19, 2010, 05:21 AM

Slightly off topic: since the coming of version 1.5 all the tutorials for provincial campaigns go bust because they rely on Alpaca's kit (which uses the mt2w.lnt from version 1.3). Could someone point the way on how to make\obtain an updated mt2w.lnt file and the corresponding graphics and text files?