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    Default Bahá'í Faith: a solution to religious conflict?

    Bahá'í Faith is an interesting synthesis of all the world's major religions whereby they recognise Buddha,Krishna,Abraham,Muhammed and others as divinely inspired messengers.They have been heavily persecuted in Iran which is where the faith originated (Shiraz in particular), more info can be found here:

    Bahá'í Faith

    I am not Bahá'í but I would like to know what people think of it.

    They have temples in India and Israel for example:

    The Delhi temple


    Haifa temple:

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    Default Re: Bahá'í Faith: a solution to religious conflict?

    Beautiful temple, lotus flower if i am not mistaken. It's a good idea, but not the only one and certainly won't convince any of the hardcore fundies.
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers View Post
    Beautiful temple, lotus flower if i am not mistaken. It's a good idea, but not the only one and certainly won't convince any of the hardcore fundies.
    yuh I have visited it and was really impressed.

    of course not the only good idea but I still think it could play a role in bringing religions together perhaps.

    The "hardcore fundies" well meh to them
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    Meh indeed. I would rather that religions were abolished altogether but tbh if we find any way to coexist without killing each other and constantly insulting each other's beliefs then i am fine with it .
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers View Post
    Meh indeed. I would rather that religions were abolished altogether but tbh if we find any way to coexist without killing each other and constantly insulting each other's beliefs then i am fine with it .
    lol why abolished?

    but this is perhaps a way for religions to coexist without killing each other though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaghatai Khan View Post
    lol why abolished?
    I grew up with the Sectarian horrors of Glasgow from one catholic and one protestant parent, and i am atheist, so i am fed up with watching religious people bicker all the time .
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers View Post
    I grew up with the Sectarian horrors of Glasgow from one catholic and one protestant parent, and i am atheist, so i am fed up with watching religious people bicker all the time .
    well communal violence in India is also evidence of this bickering.
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    Default Re: Bahá'í Faith: a solution to religious conflict?

    The Baha'i faith would essentially render faith pointless, as it would demonstrate that people could simply abandon their god in favour of something else at a mass scale, effectively nullifying the influence their former god has ever had through his respective religion.

    The Baha'i followers would then en-masse realise how stupid it is what they're doing and religion would probably die that very instant.

    ... can't happen soon enough for me. 8D
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    The Baha'i faith would essentially render faith pointless, as it would demonstrate that people could simply abandon their god in favour of something else at a mass scale, effectively nullifying the influence their former god has ever had through his respective religion.
    how?

    The Baha'i followers would then en-masse realise how stupid it is what they're doing and religion would probably die that very instant.
    why are they stupid? this is part of the problem when people start calling other religions "stupid"


    ... can't happen soon enough for me. 8D
    what religion do you follow then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaghatai Khan View Post
    how?

    why are they stupid?
    What is the strength of god if people can just abandon his religion at will and decide to be something else (which they can, most people are just too afraid/comfortable to try)? If everyone decides to abandon their religion and become Baha'i, do you have any idea how that would nullify everything that people have believed in for hundreds to thousands of years? Which would in turn automatically imply the very pointlessness of being Baha'i, as it is just as likely to get mass deserted as preceding faiths.

    what religion do you follow then?
    None, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    What is the strength of god if people can just abandon his religion at will and decide to be something else (which they can, most people are just too afraid/comfortable to try)? If everyone decides to abandon their religion and become Baha'i, do you have any idea how that would nullify everything that people have believed in for hundreds to thousands of years? Which would in turn automatically imply the very pointlessness of being Baha'i, as it is just as likely to get mass deserted as preceding faiths.

    None, obviously.
    not really

    you could say the same about any convert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bovril View Post
    Syncretism still creates a syncretic dogma. I do not believe that it is the answer to religious conflict.I do not think the Bahais are likely to join in any religious conflicts, but then agian neither are the Jains who are not syncretic at all, or the Quakers who are much less so.
    The only thing that will stop genuinely religious conflict is if all religious people thought "it would be better if my faith disapeared from the face of the earth than that it used any sort of force to defend or propogate itself".
    I don't see this ever happening, though it is the position I would take myself.
    so religion ought to disappear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copperknickers View Post
    I grew up with the Sectarian horrors of Glasgow from one catholic and one protestant parent, and i am atheist, so i am fed up with watching religious people bicker all the time.
    Sectarian horrors lol... sectarianism in Scotland only exists today because of the football, this is the only country in the world where things would happent that way around.

    I'm a Proddy Hun and I'll stay that way, thank you.
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    Default Re: Bahá'í Faith: a solution to religious conflict?

    Exactly, that too. If all people were atheists, at least we wouldn't be quite to resolutely stubborn. Ok, we probably would anyway, but i am changing for no man so i will convert you all eventually to the true way. (Of course the hypocristy is deliberate).
    A new mobile phone tower went up in a town in the USA, and the local newspaper asked a number of people what they thought of it. Some said they noticed their cellphone reception was better. Some said they noticed the tower was affecting their health.

    A local administrator was asked to comment. He nodded sagely, and said simply: "Wow. And think about how much more pronounced these effects will be once the tower is actually operational."

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    Default Re: Bahá'í Faith: a solution to religious conflict?

    Education is a better solution to religious conflict.

    That way they will become sekular, and after that ateists.

    Thus, religious conflict will be out of the picture.

    Just now for all the other hundreds of different kinds of conflics there are...

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    Default Re: Bahá'í Faith: a solution to religious conflict?

    Syncretism still creates a syncretic dogma. I do not believe that it is the answer to religious conflict.I do not think the Bahais are likely to join in any religious conflicts, but then agian neither are the Jains who are not syncretic at all, or the Quakers who are much less so.
    The only thing that will stop genuinely religious conflict is if all religious people thought "it would be better if my faith disapeared from the face of the earth than that it used any sort of force to defend or propogate itself".
    I don't see this ever happening, though it is the position I would take myself simply because I believe no valid faith exists which could use violence. The use of violence is an admision, in my opinion, that the faith has allready died out.
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    Default Re: Bahá'í Faith: a solution to religious conflict?

    ^I'd tap that

    OT, they sound very interesting, but I'm afraid they're not too well known over here

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    Default Re: Bahá'í Faith: a solution to religious conflict?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    ^I'd tap that


    OT, they sound very interesting, but I'm afraid they're not too well known over here
    well on the wikipedia page you will see they have a temple in Illinois in Amrika

    Quote Originally Posted by Bovril View Post
    Initiation into power structures is a slow process. You would probably gradually come to think that such treatment of yourself was appropriate on many levels just like anyone else. Its seductive.
    delusions of grandeur you mean?

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    The only solution to religious conflict is no religion.
    I don't think that is possible though
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    The only solution to religious conflict is no religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinian View Post
    The only solution to religious conflict is no religion.
    Just as the only solution to conflict is no life.

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    Default Re: Bahá'í Faith: a solution to religious conflict?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bovril View Post
    Just as the only solution to conflict is no life.
    exactly since it is almost inherent in humans.
    Last edited by Babur; April 21, 2009 at 05:50 PM.
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