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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/8007756.stm
    At least 32 Palestinians have died and several more have been maimed in such cases during and since Israel's January military assault, the group said.
    HRW accuses the Hamas militant group which controls Gaza of targeting people thought to be collaborators with Israel and members of the rival faction Fatah.
    Hamas denied its forces were involved in extra-judicial killings.
    During the 22-day Israeli operation, "Hamas moved violently against its political opponents and those deemed collaborators with Israeli forces", said Joe Stork, deputy director of Human Rights Watch's Middle East and North Africa division.
    Eighteen men were were summarily executed, most suspected of collaborating with Israel, during the fighting, HRW said.
    In the three months since January, another 14 people were killed, including at least four in detention, the report released on Monday said.
    Most of the 18 men killed during the war had escaped from Gaza's main prison after Israeli aircraft bombed the building, and they were subsequently tracked down and shot, the group said.
    "The widespread practice of maiming people by shooting them in the legs is of particular concern," the report said.
    Between the start of the conflict, on 27 December, and the end of January, 49 people were shot in the legs and 73 Gazan men had their legs and arms broken, the report said.
    Hamas dismissals
    Hamas spokesman Taher al-Nono, denied the movement's forces were involved in extra-judicial killings but said it was investigating claims that some militant groups had killed suspected collaborators.
    Speaking to Reuters news agency, he pointed out 11 Gaza policemen were dismissed last week and will face court martial over the death of a detainee who was held on suspicion of drug dealing.
    Human Rights groups have frequently expressed concern over torture and abuses by Hamas in Gaza and by the Fatah-dominated Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.
    Both have clamped down on their opponents during a long-running feud.
    In the West Bank, a Hamas member of the Palestinian parliament was injured by what he said was a shot fired towards him by PA security forces.
    Hamas members were quoted in Palestinian media describing the incident as an "assassination attempt".
    The two sides are set to resume Egyptian-brokered reconciliation talks aimed at forming a unity government later this week.
    Disgusting, The Palestinian's situation will continue to deteriorate if they can't even stop fighting themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/8007756.stm

    Disgusting, The Palestinian's situation will continue to deteriorate if they can't even stop fighting themselves.
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    "Freedom fighters". Yeah ****ing right.

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    They were attacked because they fired rockets during the ceasefire.

    Thus has 1400 lives on their heads.

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    That's what you get when you vote Hamas.

    I'm sure they'll blame the Israelis and they can all unite under a banner of hate.
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    I distinctly remember posting a thread exactly like this one back in Jan. after the latest spat in Gaza ended. This is nothing new when it comes to Hamas to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelius View Post
    I distinctly remember posting a thread exactly like this one back in Jan. after the latest spat in Gaza ended. This is nothing new when it comes to Hamas to be honest.
    Its nothing new at all. To even suggest that it is is a vast understatement.

    The simple fact of the matter is, when Israel last controlled Gaza, there was relative peace. Around 16 people died during that period, and all but two, were terrorists.

    The same goes for Fatah. While far from perfect, they kept Gaza in relative peace, aside from clashes with Hamas, and clashes with criminal families that still control certain areas.

    Its as simple as this; there is no way forward with Hamas in power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabyJones View Post
    Its nothing new at all. To even suggest that it is is a vast understatement.

    The simple fact of the matter is, when Israel last controlled Gaza, there was relative peace. Around 16 people died during that period, and all but two, were terrorists.

    The same goes for Fatah. While far from perfect, they kept Gaza in relative peace, aside from clashes with Hamas, and clashes with criminal families that still control certain areas.

    Its as simple as this; there is no way forward with Hamas in power.
    Uh, do you have a source to back up any of your assertions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major.Stupidity View Post
    Uh, do you have a source to back up any of your assertions?
    Do us all a favor and educate yourself, just a little ing bit, before you enter a specific thread...

    Im not going to do the legwork for you. And aside from that, I remember having this arguement with you during the last war, in which I did do the legwork for you.

    A post like yours, does nothing. If you want to pick apart my post, then bring something to support the idea that I am wrong, besides you one sentence comment that panders to morons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelius View Post
    I distinctly remember posting a thread exactly like this one back in Jan. after the latest spat in Gaza ended. This is nothing new when it comes to Hamas to be honest.
    Because you know so much about HAMAS?
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    Default Re: Hamas killing Palestinian foes

    They were attacked because they fired rockets during the ceasefire.
    They were attacked for being "Israeli collaborators".

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    They were attacked because they fired rockets during the ceasefire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Göteborgare View Post
    They were attacked because they fired rockets during the ceasefire.
    You seem to be talking about something completely different.

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    They were attacked because they fired rockets during the ceasefire.
    I don't know if that's what you want to believe or if it's what you want us to believe but read the OP:


    During the 22-day Israeli operation, "Hamas moved violently against its political opponents and those deemed collaborators with Israeli forces", said Joe Stork, deputy director of Human Rights Watch's Middle East and North Africa division.
    Eighteen men were were summarily executed, most suspected of collaborating with Israel, during the fighting,
    HRW accuses the Hamas militant group which controls Gaza of targeting people thought to be collaborators with Israel and members of the rival faction Fatah.

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    Default Re: Hamas killing Palestinian foes

    Not much of a rebuttal.

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    Hamas is the democratically elected government of Gaza. Any other government would shoot collaborateurs during a state war (especially when they this very moment bomb the out of you) or criminals fleeing their prissons.

    Its called "martial law".


    Quote Originally Posted by Göteborgare View Post
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    Like i said.
    They were attacked for shooting rockets during the ceasefire.
    Thus giving Israel a reason to attack.
    Thus, they are responcible for 1400 palestinian deaths.
    Thats factually incorrect: Israel broke the cease fire and the preparations for operation cast lead were going on, even before this so called "ceasefire" became active.

    Israel killed 6 hamas members in november which resulted in some rockets (that didnt hurt anyone, as they hardly ever hurt anyone). Israel killed them to have a reason to "re- establish" it´s deterrance capacity by bombing ther hell out of gaza. This detterance capacity was regarded as damaged, due to it´s epic Lebanon fail in 2006.
    Last edited by gojira; April 20, 2009 at 05:39 PM.

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    s.rwitt

    Like i said.
    They were attacked for shooting rockets during the ceasefire.
    Thus giving Israel a reason to attack.
    Thus, they are responcible for 1400 palestinian deaths.

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    s.rwitt

    Like i said.
    They were attacked for shooting rockets during the ceasefire.
    Thus giving Israel a reason to attack.
    Thus, they are responcible for 1400 palestinian deaths.
    You can repeat that all you want, but the OP says differently. Not sure what made you think shooting rockets at Israel and collaborating with Israel are the same thing though.
    Last edited by s.rwitt; April 20, 2009 at 05:38 PM.

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    No, the OP doesnt make my statement wrong.

    Shooting rockets to give the enemy a reason to come, IS collaborating with the enemy.
    Fatah is best friend with Israel and the US.

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