Lt. Col. Oliver North: "I Am An 'Extremist'"

[The Good]

Lt. Col. Oliver North: "I Am An 'Extremist'"

http://townhall.com/Columnists/Olive...m_an_extremist

Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North's response to the April 7 Assessment issued by the Office of Intelligence and Analysis at the Department of Homeland Security.

[Cougar109]

I have the utmost respect for everything the man has done for this country and from the bottom of my heart thank him for all his service and all he has sacrificed.

With that said he his the definition of a hardcore Republican and has no qualms with stepping on everyone who does not share his political and morale values. So it really isn't all that far fetched to view him as an extremist with his views.

Though I do agree Obama really should reject and denounce that assessment as it serves no purpose other then to actually provoke the extremists and further sever an already broken relationship between the two political parties.

[Last Roman]

I have the utmost respect for everything the man has done for this country and from the bottom of my heart thank him for all his service and all he has sacrificed.

the man sold his soul to the devil a looong time ago. screw oli.

[Cougar109]

the man sold his soul to the devil a looong time ago. screw oli.

Eh, I'm aware of most of his dealings though a few more have been revealed to me in this thread. Still I have respect for pretty much anyone who served in the military as they've earned at least that. Going back over what I wrote though I must say I did feel like kicking myself in the nuts.

[B5C]

Good for Oliver North. I has well read the report. I would be considered to be an extremist as well.

[Pious Agnost]

It said 'May be classified' not 'Will be classified'

To quote Ferrets, it leaves room for rational judgement (Or something like that)

[Pious Agnost]

It said 'May be classified' not 'Will be classified'

To quote Ferrets, it leaves room for rational judgement (Or something like that)

[IronBrig4]

Are we talking about the same Ollie North? The guy who supported the Contras and their acts of terror? He's a goddamn disgrace.

[horatius]

Interesting article.

The following quotes are directly from the Department of Homeland Security report "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.

The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms... could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups.

and

Proposed imposition of firearm restrictions and weapon bans likely would attract new members into the ranks of rightwing extremist groups.

Why don't they realize that weapon bans are ineffective and pointless?

Furthermore, why don't they realize that responsible people with guns reduce crime? Why must they try to take our guns away, and take away our Second Amendment rights?

I hope Obama renounces the report.

[Sidmen]

Interesting article.

The following quotes are directly from the Department of Homeland Security report "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.
and
Why don't they realize that weapon bans are ineffective and pointless?

Furthermore, why don't they realize that responsible people with guns reduce crime? Why must they try to take our guns away, and take away our Second Amendment rights?

I hope Obama renounces the report.

Aren't both of those things true tho? I know that increased restrictions on firearms would get me to side with rightwing extremists faster than anything else...

And using Terrorist tactics against the government is the same as saying "rebelling".

[B5C]

And using Terrorist tactics against the government is the same as saying "rebelling".

These days it matters who are you targeting to consider you a terrorist.

[Phier]

I think there is some validity to the Obama camp's claims, from their point of view of course.

Who does a left-wing government fear, their own right wing citizens or foreign nationals?

Foreign nationals will not hurt their power, at least not directly, where their own right wing citizens are a threat to their way of thinking.

I think the Obama camp's political problem, was singling out right wing extremists as the most dangerous threat. They really made it easy to attack this policy.

[B5C]

I think there is some validity to the Obama camp's claims, from their point of view of course.

Who does a left-wing government fear, their own right wing citizens or foreign nationals?

Foreign nationals will not hurt their power, at least not directly, where their own right wing citizens are a threat to their way of thinking.

I think the Obama camp's political problem, was singling out right wing extremists as the most dangerous threat. They really made it easy to attack this policy.

True, also the Bush Administration did point out threats from leftist terrorism, but it was mainly eco-terrorism. Still Bush says Muslim terrorism is still the major threat to the United States. Now with the Obama administration, we can't label the Islamic terrorism as a major threat now because we have to be goody goody with Syria, Iran, and now Hamas.

[Sidmen]

These days it matters who are you targeting to consider you a terrorist.

Not really. All it matters is that your opposing the people in power.

If you blow up a government Building: Terrorists.
If you blow up a military checkpoint: Terrorists.
If you blow up a train full of people: Freedom Fighters.

[B5C]

Not really. All it matters is that your opposing the people in power.

If you blow up a government Building: Terrorists.
If you blow up a military checkpoint: Terrorists.
If you blow up a train full of people: Freedom Fighters.

Still want to call them Freedom Fighters if the train is full of just civilians? I don't believe car bombing a food market as a way to promote freedom from occupiers.

[Zephyrus]

Does wanting the government to back up its promises with verifiable and intelligent action count as promoting extremism?

[s.rwitt]

YES!

You are now an extremist for asking such a question. Your dossier has been filed.


I once had lunch with Col North when he visited my military school (Marine Military Academy in Harlingen, Texas). If anyone (including Obama) considers him an extremist someone needs to donate a dictionary to them so they can figure out what the **** an extremist actually is.

[Sphere]

Oliver North an extremist? Nah. Who hasn't sold arms to the Islamic Republic of Iran, used the profits to fund para-military groups in central America in direct violation of an act of congress, and then shreded the evidence? I do that every weekend.

[Gumpfendorfer]

I have the utmost respect for everything the man has done for this country and from the bottom of my heart thank him for all his service and all he has sacrificed.

Oliver North has been a convicted criminal, and a disgrace to his uniform due to his very murky dealings in the past. Handing out guns to a bunch of drug dealing criminals responsible for so many atrocities, killing, raping and torturing women and children and all that, isn't what I call a national hero. A national disgrace he is. And like so many clowns he now works for Fox; another disgrace, to any standard of decent journalism.

[B5C]

Oliver North has been a convicted criminal, and a disgrace to his uniform due to his very murky dealings in the past.

All his charges were dropped.

However, on July 20, 1990, with the help of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU),[7] North's convictions were vacated, after the appeals court found that witnesses in his trial might have been impermissibly affected by his immunized congressional testimony.[8] Because North had been granted limited immunity for his Congressional testimony, the law prohibited the independent counsel (or any prosecutor) from using that testimony as part of a criminal case against him. To prepare for the expected defense challenge that North's testimony had been used, the prosecution team had - before North's congressional testimony had been given - listed and isolated all its evidence[citation needed]; further, the individual members of the prosecution team had isolated themselves from news reports and discussion of North's testimony. While the defense could show no specific instance where any part of North's congressional testimony was used in his trial, the Court of Appeals ruled that the trial judge had made an insufficient examination of the issue, and ordered North's convictions reversed. The Supreme Court declined to review the case. After further hearings on the immunity issue, Judge Gesell dismissed all charges against North on September 16, 1991, on the motion of the independent counsel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_North

BTW, I support the contras to remove the communist and socialist regimes out of North and South America.