Did Jesus Exist?

[Noremac]

Zeitgeist? What do you think about Jesus' and his life. Most scholars and historians agree that Jesus was a real person, even if they don't believe in his religious views. There are though some who believe Jesus never existed.

[Visna]

Of course he existed.

[Calvin]

Yes he does.

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

Yes there are historical sources proving his existence.. on a related note the Easter Bunny is an avatar of Satan trying to take over Jesus's happy resurrection day..

[Arch-hereticK]

There's the same amount of evidence for Jesus as Homer (simpson)

[gambit]

There's the same amount of evidence for Jesus as Homer (simpson)

Well we've got documented footage of Homer Simpsons existence.

About 20 seasons worth.

[GuineaPig]

It's debatable, but I'll go with probably, yes.

[The Count(er)]

"I am awaiting the Mothership to save me from December 21, 2012"
I'm not sure why it's there but I just had to vote for it.
Although if I was in a more serious mood I may have voted "yes".

[Helm]

Yes but only as a normal if inspirational human.

[D.B. Cooper]

Of course he did.

[Helm]

It's not 100% certain he did. There's a complete lack of any other historical records about him.

[Göteborgare]

Ofcourse he didnt exist.
And there are NO historical evidence of this.
Dont you think any of the known historians would have made a little note about some dude that turned water into wine etc?


Plus, Joshua was a common name.

[gambit]

Ofcourse he didnt exist.
And there are NO historical evidence of this.
Dont you think any of the known historians would have made a little note about some dude that turned water into wine etc?


Plus, Joshua was a common name.

There IS historical evidence, many authors noted him; they only claimed his miracles and divinity in the Bible.

[Helm]

There IS historical evidence, many authors noted him; they only claimed his miracles and divinity in the Bible.

The Bible doesn't really count as historical evidence though. Sure it's story based on something that may have happened, mixed in with a little myth and legend.

[gambit]

The Bible doesn't really count as historical evidence though. Sure it's story based on something that may have happened, mixed in with a little myth and legend.

My point was that of all the authors that mentioned him, the bible was the only one that claimed miracles. He's a definite historical figure, just not the whole divinity thing.

And some historians count (parts of) the Bible as historical evidence, not every single piece of writing in it is myth and legend.

[Wheelchair]

There IS historical evidence, many authors noted him; they only claimed his miracles and divinity in the Bible.

He was clearly an Arcanic Mage from World of Warcraft, creating drinks for everybody to drink! Oh and he also had Shamans waterwalking which had to be nerfed because everybody knows that you can't do both.

[MaryPoppinCaps]

" Your religious enthusiasm and writing style never fails to give me an eerie and uncomfortable feeling. If you are having constant visions and hearing voices of Jesus you might want to get that checked out...and I couldn't help but laugh at your word choice, "On my knees He filled me with Jesus..." haha God did what?"

Colin October,

Christians know what I say, unfortunately them that don't then don't know the power of God and His wonderful works in men. For goodness sake man, the Bible is full of such stories, it is the Gospel of Jesus Christ and it may be foolish at the hands of man but then it is the foolish things that God uses against the wise. Of course God communicates with them that are His but only His can hear Him, the Spirit within them being witness.

The other side of the coin says that to them that cannot understand these things, the Gospel is an offense. It hurts them that they do not experience the same and therefore best to disparage it, which of course you are doing. But then you are not alone as the above poster proves. What it shows to me is just how far from God you both are and that is sad, especially as my experiences could be yours if it weren't for how wise you think you are.

I was merely having some fun with you. But, if you insist, I am not hurt by not experiencing your revelations or visions. I'm actually quite content without them. I was not really disparaging anything and I do not think I'm wise. How wise can an American teenager be? Not much. If God has a problem with how far away I am from him, then he can take it up with me anytime; I'd be more than willing to have a nice chat with him. Maybe he's just shy.

Frankly, I don't need your experiences or things like Jesus or God. If he's there, good for him. He doesn't need my faith if he's all powerful, he's just badass. I don't worry myself about supernatural things and if they exist then woohoo, isn't that neat. Why should I believe in something that I can't prove if not simply to make myself feel better in a cold and heartless world? I don't need the consolation.

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You know you want a little of Jesus in you.

The wee man, huh...

Sorry, sorry. I promise I'll stop now. I just couldn't help myself.

EDIT. I blame you, Colin October!

You called?

I felt the need to share what I thought was funny.

[basics]

Colin October,

I realise that fun is all that you guys get out of the wonderful workings of God, the reasons I set out. Yes I can see the funny side were it not for it being more abusive of God than me. You almost hinted at an apology then spoiled it all by going into some more silly comments but I guess you're not the first nor shall you be the last.

What baffles me though is that I mention just some of the things that Jesus Christ did for me and still does, you find it funny. Yet, at your school you hear of some guy who can say that your ancestor was once a monkey and that isn't so funny. You believe it. Now that is funny, why? Because your power of wit declares that that just might be true.

[Visna]

Ofcourse he didnt exist.
And there are NO historical evidence of this.
Dont you think any of the known historians would have made a little note about some dude that turned water into wine etc?


Plus, Joshua was a common name.

There is a difference between Jesus the historical figure and Jesus the biblical figure. Was he born of a virgin and turned water into wine? Most likely not. But he did exist.

[Helm]

It's like Robin Hood didn't exist, but they did base him on someone who did.