AI displayed actual intelligence!

[eug1404]

For the first time I've ever come across, the AI in vanilla ETW displayed actual intelligence.

It was Grand Columbia's turn, on the turn prior I had landed a hostile army on their shores, so they threw everything they had at me. I prevailed, so then, in the best display of intelligence I've ever seen from the vanilla AI, they pleaded to become a protectorate(offering me essentially everything they could).

This is the only time I have ever seen something even remotely resembling intelligent diplomacy on the part of the AI in vanilla ETW. Anyone else have similar stories?

[Souvorov]

please tell me you crushed them!

learn them good man lol

diplomacy is for doops

[eug1404]

please tell me you crushed them!

Of course, I don't take protectorates, I take provinces .

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

Well once The Ottomans somehow conquered India, The Middle East, and some of north Africa... Don't know if that counts..

[cpt_acid]

This thread has got to be made a Sticky right away!

[Kaap]

I invaded Venice as Austria with a full stack army and laid siege on their capitol. Next turn they offered to become proctorate. Sweet!

[Steel55677]

Morocco did that too. I siege their only territory with 3 full stacks and during AI's turn, they asked to become protectorate. But then Spain got them since I was at war with them.

[Seamless]

Yeah I took over the Italian States and after beating their army (in a rather pitched battle) they offered to become protectorate. Unfortunately for them I declined: I want their port as my own.

[Deathofjams]

As the Ottomans, I once allied with Russia and Prussia, then declared war on Poland. Both of them joined me, and then actually helped me fight. They took provinces, destroyed armies- even managed to get a few 3v1 battles in. It was like an in-game version of the real-life partition of Poland.

Oh, and once, when playing as the Dutch, I bought Carnatica from the Marathas and got ready to build an Indian Empire. Before I was ready, they attacked my ally Portugal, so I joined in to fight them (and collect some new Indian gains in the process). I was just about able to defeat their armies and take one of their provinces, and then I approached the undefended Marathan capital and prepared to lay siege. Before I could do so Portugal nipped in and managed to take both the capital and the region north of it. Bastards. Letting me do all the work and then taking the spoils.

In that same campaign I also watched Poland and Prussia work together- without any interference from myself- to totally and completely destroy Austria. That was pretty cool.

[Lord Leopold]

For the first time I've ever come across, the AI in vanilla ETW displayed actual intelligence.

It was Grand Columbia's turn, on the turn prior I had landed a hostile army on their shores, so they threw everything they had at me. I prevailed, so then, in the best display of intelligence I've ever seen from the vanilla AI, they pleaded to become a protectorate(offering me essentially everything they could).

This is the only time I have ever seen something even remotely resembling intelligent diplomacy on the part of the AI in vanilla ETW. Anyone else have similar stories?

Well Courtland and Poland are double teaming me working together trying to knock me out of this region. Its like a chess game I had to save the game and think what my next move is going to be. Either way I hit their armies I have their reinforcements to deal with and a lot of them.

This is the first time I have actually seen them work together and they have me in a hell of a position right now.

using darthmod 1.3 vh/vh

[cpt_acid]

Playing as Austria I needed Ottoman Romelia as Victory condition. Pushing my armies south from Serbia and Bosnia, I besieged Romelia's capitol Istanbul, but had to invade and besiege Greece and Bulgaria to avoid being flanked by the Turks. I did not really want to occupy these two because my expansion hatemeter was running on red and I did not really need them. I just prolonged sieges wondering wheter to sign peace...

Then, in a stoke of genius, my allies Russia and Venice sent one or two units to Bulgaria and Greece respectivelly, and using my besieging forces, took them for themselves easily.

That's cooridnated strike force.

[ralala]

Well Courtland and Poland are double teaming me working together trying to knock me out of this region. Its like a chess game I had to save the game and think what my next move is going to be. Either way I hit their armies I have their reinforcements to deal with and a lot of them.

This is the first time I have actually seen them work together and they have me in a hell of a position right now.

using darthmod 1.3 vh/vh

Yeah, that happened to me too, made it a bit more challenging.
What I did eventually, after both Poland and Courland attacked me each time it was their turn(and they were both close enough to reinforce each other)was to ally with Russia - which then took a big bite out of eastern Poland - and made some space for me to rush and take Courland - and after that; Warzaw.

All of this took like 15-20 turns, and has been the most enjoyable 'mini-scenario' I've had in a campaign.
This wasn't vanilla though, it's DarthMod

[Lord Leopold]

Yeah, that happened to me too, made it a bit more challenging.
What I did eventually, after both Poland and Courland attacked me each time it was their turn(and they were both close enough to reinforce each other)was to ally with Russia - which then took a big bite out of eastern Poland - and made some space for me to rush and take Courland - and after that; Warzaw.

All of this took like 15-20 turns, and has been the most enjoyable 'mini-scenario' I've had in a campaign.
This wasn't vanilla though, it's DarthMod

Russia? heck I have been their ally since the beginning. They are a bunch of pansies. I have not seen any of their troops. just their stupid gentlemen running around.

I have played plenty of campaigns and never finishing one of them. before I used darthmod the AI just seemed predictable. I have always used Prussia so I have never seen the AI react this way in vanilla.

None of my allies are even helping me. I have been financing Austria's war with Poland and it is paying off. Austria has taken a few regions from Poland.

I hate to boot the game up now after losing Saxony. I know Courtland and Poland's next move is Brandenburg and I know I do not have enough units because of moving some to try and defend other regions. So I may be starting over after they pound me.

One thing I would like to see in this game is for your allies to actually help you. I have had some of them help but very little. And please do something with the gentleman spamming. I got four of Polands right next to Brandenburg and they seem to just one by one hit my school and then go down to their region. then they always come back. trying to kill these sob's is almost impossible.

[Vladskywolf]

And please do something with the gentleman spamming. I got four of Polands right next to Brandenburg and they seem to just one by one hit my school and then go down to their region. then they always come back. trying to kill these sob's is almost impossible.

Yeah, gentlemen (and priests) are almost impossible to take out with your lowly 3-star rake. One tip I picked up from another thread which has worked out great, is to raise the rake's experience by infiltrating army stacks - enemy, friend, doesn't matter, you can even follow them around if you like. Just remember not to leave them attached to the stack as you might get discovered during the AI turn. Once they begin gaining experience I mix it up with other mission types. I now have no more problems with gentlemen trying to steal my tech, or priests trying to subvert the souls of my populace, and assassinating enemy generals before major battles is a real treat. Just remember to start early since they have more success with low level targets, and always, always, and I mean always as in EVERY TURN (whenever in range) give them a mission. Do not let them sit there without something to do.

As for the OP, I invaded Mysore as Russia with one full stack army. During the AI turn, they attacked my invading force on the beaches with two full stacks. Of course we have this lovely bug where reinforcements seem to come out of nowhere (being fixed in next patch thankfully) so it was challenging defending against one horde while repositioning to defend against the other. Gladly, my troops prevailed whereupon they promptly offered to become my protectorate - first time I had seen that! However, my sensibilities were offended by their demand for 1100 gold - I counteroffered for 900 but they impudently refused. So for the sake of 200 gold, the independent kingdom of Mysore is no more.

[Swordfish08]

I actually did receive some help from my Dutch allies in my campaign as Great Britain. We were at war with France and Spain (which I imagine is a common occurrence in a GB campaign). In effort to help the Dutch on the ground in mainland Europe (and also because I kinda wanted to), I took Flanders from the Spanish.

Well, Spain wanted it back, and France was going to help them do it. After a fending off a few attacks from them, my garrison (what was left of the army which took Flanders in the first place), was just about gone. They had been taking losses faster than they could be replaced. I was trying to put together a fresh army in the British Isles to send over to reinforce, but I wasn't going to have enough time. The garrison was reduced to five units, all of whom were at less than half their strength, and half a stack of Frenchmen were on the border, ready to march on Brussels. I reluctantly press the "End Turn" button, knowing that I'm about to lose Flanders, but the French army never moved.

So I sat there, scratching my head, trying to figure out why France didn't walk into Brussels. When I looked next to the city, I saw why. A Dutch army, fifteen units strong, moved into Flanders and stopped right next to Brussels, effectively protecting the city for me and keeping the French at bay long enough for me to reinforce the province.

I don't know if it was intentional by the AI, but I was impressed none the less.

[Metzgershund]

Guarantee you that was a pure incident.

Nothing to see here, move along.

[Lord Leopold]

Metzgershund;4991230]Guarantee you that was a pure incident.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Not mine they continued hitting East Prussia until they finally took it from me. I took it back a few turns later. Now they just took Saxony from me and moving their stacks towards Branden. Again they both are hitting the same town at the same time. If they take Branden then I am history.

[Nastyvale]

@Bluebonn: Mind you Courland and Saxoxy are Poland's protectorates so maybe it's a simple case of the protector doing his business. It does feel 'cheap' to have one-state minors DOW you as the onyl way to get DOW'ed by their protectors. Too 'gamey' AI scripting...

[Fishy]

@Bluebonn: Mind you Courland and Saxoxy are Poland's protectorates so maybe it's a simple case of the protector doing his business. It does feel 'cheap' to have one-state minors DOW you as the onyl way to get DOW'ed by their protectors. Too 'gamey' AI scripting...

Protectorates don't always help you when you're in a war. They don't even always help their computer allies. So I doubt it's scripted. It might just have been that both armies saw a weakness there and wanted to conquer the provinces.

[nostradamouse]

Problem with that...


It never happens on very hard (and trust me, I've kicked the asses of various factions)