Bullet control?

[The Fishman]

I was discussing gun control with one of my friends recently, and he came up with an interesting idea to cut gun crime: a massive tax on bullets. The idea is that if bullets cost $1000 each nobody would use them to rob a shop and steal about $200 worth of goods. There would be a discount for law enforcement agencies and the army, and hunting ammo like birdshot would be exempt.
people could still use guns for self-defence because your life is worth more than $1000 dollars and you might be able to get it back though some kind of compensation.
The only problem I can think of is that some people could get bullets cheaply from illegal outlets.

[Ishoss]

/cue hillbillies

[The Fishman]

/cue hillbillies

I don't see why they would compain, their right to bare arms has not been taken- only their right to fire them irresponsibly!

[Cooraan]

Didn't Chris Rock say something like this in one of his stand ups?

[Fiyenyaa]

Didn't Chris Rock say something like this in one of his stand ups?

Chris Rock gave this idea verbatim.

To the OP, tell your mate that he's an effing ideas thief!

[The Fishman]

Chris Rock gave this idea verbatim.

To the OP, tell your mate that he's an effing ideas thief!

I don't think he's heard of Chris Rock. He doesn't have a TV.

[King dude man]

ya hears link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFcVwDw4YLE

[Vizsla]

Wouldn’t people just make their own bullets?

[The Fishman]

Wouldn’t people just make their own bullets?

Perhaps, but wouldn't it be quite difficult? It requires patience and mathematical skills to get something to fit precisely, so how would people put all the parts together?

[GrnEyedDvl]

Perhaps, but wouldn't it be quite difficult? It requires patience and mathematical skills to get something to fit precisely, so how would people put all the parts together?

Reloading is a BIG business for sport shooters. There are hundreds of thousands of people who do this.

[Pickle_mole]

Perhaps, but wouldn't it be quite difficult? It requires patience and mathematical skills to get something to fit precisely, so how would people put all the parts together?

real enthusiasts load there own rounds all the time. ive been pondering about getting into it actually, it can save a ton of money.

[BNS]

Ridiculous. This will just push the ammo market to the "illegal" underground. Much of the same arguments against gun control apply here. Good thing there is no way this would get by the military interests in government.

[King dude man]

probably my dad does

[CtrlAltDe1337]

I was discussing gun control with one of my friends recently, and he came up with an interesting idea to cut gun crime: a massive tax on bullets. The idea is that if bullets cost $1000 each nobody would use them to rob a shop and steal about $200 worth of goods. There would be a discount for law enforcement agencies and the army, and hunting ammo like birdshot would be exempt.
people could still use guns for self-defence because your life is worth more than $1000 dollars and you might be able to get it back though some kind of compensation.
The only problem I can think of is that some people could get bullets cheaply from illegal outlets.

People would just buy hunting ammo? I'm sorry, but this is what the government is already trying to do and its a stupid idea. There is no use having guns if honest people can't afford ammo. Crooks will just buy illegal ammo from the black market to get around this. It might reduce some small-time criminals from using guns (so they would just go out and buy knives), but it wouldn't really do much good and would hurt law-abiding citizens.

Perhaps, but wouldn't it be quite difficult? It requires patience and mathematical skills to get something to fit precisely, so how would people put all the parts together?

You can buy a machine for a few hundred dollars and the raw materials and make all the bullets you want. Small-time gunsmiths already make their own bullets.

[Lancy]

The only problem I can think of is that some people could get bullets cheaply from illegal outlets.

That is a major problem. Those people willing to buy ammo cheaply from illegal outlets are very likely the same ones who are going to use their weapons for nefarious purposes.

[CtrlAltDe1337]

That is a major problem. Those people willing to buy ammo cheaply from illegal outlets are very likely the same ones who are going to use their weapons for nefarious purposes.

Exactly. Having bullet control would do little to stop the large criminals and would penalize legitimate gun owners.

[Surgeon]

No, it's a stupid idea. Criminals would just get their bullets from the black market (most probably do already) so the ones most affected would be legit gun owners.

Oh, and I find it kind of ridiculous to claim this would not be an infringement on gun rights. That's like saying you have the right to free speech, except for every word you say you must pay $1000.

[cottontail]

No, it's a stupid idea. Criminals would just get their bullets from the black market (most probably do already) so the ones most affected would be legit gun owners.

Oh, and I find it kind of ridiculous to claim this would not be an infringement on gun rights. That's like saying you have the right to free speech, except for every word you say you must pay $1000.

Sigh... yes, let's compare gun control to freedom of speech. Genius! What a great argument. Who's being ridiculous here?

Who makes the bullets ( yes,even the illegal ones)? Companies, that's who. And what will happen to those companies once the demand for bullets is severly lessened by this tax? They will close, thank you. And how are those illegal organizations going to get bullets if no one is making those bullets? Yes, they can make bullets themselves, but mass production will be difficult, and far less ammunition for crime will be found.

Not saying I agree with this, however. I would just like to put restrictions on the guns you can buy.

[The Fishman]

Not saying I agree with this, however. I would just like to put restrictions on the guns you can buy.

Yes, this makes more sense to me as well. But in the USA many people believe in the right to own a gun, so perhaps stopping them from actually firing irresponsibly is the next best thing.

[Surgeon]

Sigh... yes, let's compare gun control to freedom of speech. Genius! What a great argument. Who's being ridiculous here?

The right to bear arms and the right to free speech are both guaranteed by the constitution, so they are very comparable indeed