Forcing the AI to surrender its territory

**D.B. Cooper** · April 16, 2009, 12:56 AM

Has anyone else ever done this? After soundly defeating huge Iberian armies a few times I sent a diplomat to one of their cities and force-diplomacied a deal in which they gave me all their territories save one, in exchange for money and trade rights. It seems realistic to me, as ancient nations didn't usually take each and every city to end a war.

**AqD** · April 16, 2009, 01:47 AM

They would give all but the capital, and expect them to re-take all the cities just next turn

**Aristedes** · April 16, 2009, 02:15 AM

I don't know, but even with a very high influence, my diplomat does never seem to be able to make such deals. Mostly something like 'Bandying empty words with such as you....' or 'Hah! Stop fighting?" I hate it.

**Ketchup** · April 16, 2009, 03:40 AM

That's why he uses force dilpomacy.

If I want to conquer territory I usually do it with my armies but if I've totally annihlated a faction, I will sometimes demand a hefty tribute using FD.

**Brusilov** · April 16, 2009, 03:46 AM

I just let the RTW diplomacy work as it does and deal with the consequences.

**King Nud** · April 16, 2009, 03:58 AM

Same here.

I wish there was a way to get the M2TW Diplomacy/E:TW Diplomacy back into RTW, coz both of them had giant improvements!

**Tankbuster** · April 16, 2009, 06:54 AM

I only use force diplomacy to force the AI into becoming a protectorate.
After all their cities are under siege and they should be crying on the floor and screaming for mercy, that is.

**cnaeus** · April 16, 2009, 09:24 AM

i just never diplomise(if thats an actual word), and use only military ways of taking stuf from my adversaries. i hate peacefull winnings where all my armies just stand around waiting for some aged diplomat to arive and seal the deal.

cnaeus,

**rory o'kane** · April 16, 2009, 10:43 AM

diplomise is NOT a word!

"i never use diplomacy" or "i never negotiate with my enemies" is better!

**cnaeus** · April 16, 2009, 10:52 AM

ok

, i just figured it could be a word but i wasnt sure, it sounds pretty nice though doesnt it?? anyway, i never use the action the word(the right word) discribes

cnaeus,

**dvk901** · April 16, 2009, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by D.B. Cooper

Has anyone else ever done this? After soundly defeating huge Iberian armies a few times I sent a diplomat to one of their cities and force-diplomacied a deal in which they gave me all their territories save one, in exchange for money and trade rights. It seems realistic to me, as ancient nations didn't usually take each and every city to end a war.

You make a good point here, though. Realistically, nations were forced to give up territory all the time.

**rory o'kane** · April 16, 2009, 07:20 PM

Rome fought wars of annihilation, but you're right, it wasn't the norm...

**Aristedes** · April 17, 2009, 03:52 AM

How do you use this 'Force Diplomacy'

Feeling dumb now

**ISA Gunner** · April 17, 2009, 05:43 AM

When you engage in diplomacy, click the question mark in the top right hand corner. Then follow the adviser's instructions. You must have installed Force-Diplomacy during your installation of 1.5b. It was one of the optional add-ons just like 1-turn recruitment.