Iran to propose nuclear package

[Каие]

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says Iran has prepared proposals aimed at resolving his country's nuclear dispute with the West.

Speaking in southern Iran, Mr Ahmadinejad said that the package would ensure "peace and justice" for the world. It would be offered to the West soon, he said, but gave no further details.

Iran says its nuclear programme is for peaceful purposes, but has been accused of seeking nuclear weapons by critics. Tehran has continued to enrich uranium despite lengthy negotiations in recent years with major powers and despite the imposition of sanctions by the UN Security Council.

Last month US President Barack Obama used a video message to offer "a new beginning" to Iran, triggering some conciliatory signs from Tehran, correspondents say. Earlier this week it appeared to welcome an offer of talks from the US, Russia, China, France, UK and Germany on its nuclear programme.

'Respects rights'

Mr Ahmadinejad's speech was carried live on television, as he visited Kerman in the south of Iran. "We have prepared a package that can be the basis to resolve Iran's nuclear problem. It will be offered to the West soon," he said. "This new package will ensure peace and justice for the world. It respects rights of all nations," he said.

The BBC's John Leyne in Tehran says this might sound like a peace initiative in Iran, responding to the recent overtures from Mr Obama, but it is unlikely to be seen that way in Western capitals. It is more a case of Iran trying to take the diplomatic initiative in this long-running dispute. Iran has already made it clear it is not prepared to compromise on its nuclear programme, or bow to Western demands. So it looks as if Iran is likely to offer a repeat of proposals it put forward last year, our correspondent says. At that time, Iran's ideas were not taken seriously by Western negotiators, as all Iran seemed to be offering was endless talks, while it continued its nuclear programme unhindered.

What do we make of this?

[The Devil's Sergeant]

Nothing, other than some people are very easily distracted by meaningless words.

[Homeros]

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not to be taken that seriously. Check this interview http://www.spiegel.de/international/...618559,00.html 4/10/2009

He denies through denial and then denies it

[danzig]

Meaningless comments that wont amount to anything and will probably end in an Iranian official lecturing someone on the great and awesome Persian history.

[Captain.E.Blackadder]

Please don't let that terrerist of a leader get his hands on the nuclear weapons it will be the end of the west. awwwww

[motiv-8]

Hmm... So when Ahmadenijad says that Israel must be "wiped from the pages of time", he's "omg" serious and imminently plans to destroy all the Jews, despite no actual military assertions to that end, but when he calls for proposals to settle the most contentious issue in the Middle East, he isn't to be taken seriously at all?

Right, well.. Good show gentleman, rationality has certainly won out again.

If Iran is merely preparing the same proposals as before, that were rejected, then so be it. But that doesn't mean we laugh them off automatically. Have we learned absolutely nothing from 2003?

[The Devil's Sergeant]

Hmm... So when Ahmadenijad says that Israel must be "wiped from the pages of time", he's "omg" serious and imminently plans to destroy all the Jews, despite no actual military assertions to that end, but when he calls for proposals to settle the most contentious issue in the Middle East, he isn't to be taken seriously at all?

Right, well.. Good show gentleman, rationality has certainly won out again.

Considering his nation has done much to accomplish the former and nothing for the latter, yes, it certainly is rational.

[danzig]

Hmm... So when Ahmadenijad says that Israel must be "wiped from the pages of time", he's "omg" serious and imminently plans to destroy all the Jews, despite no actual military assertions to that end, but when he calls for proposals to settle the most contentious issue in the Middle East, he isn't to be taken seriously at all?

And on the flip side of that argument those people who have "defended" Iran have gone on and said he has little power/influence so he couldnt act anyway without the religious authority approval....so wouldnt that make what he says here meaningless since he is so powerless?

[motiv-8]

And on the flip side of that argument those people who have "defended" Iran have gone on and said he has little power/influence so he couldnt act anyway without the religious authority approval....so wouldnt that make what he says here meaningless since he is so powerless?

It's not really a flip-side, because all we can make is assumptions. We assume he's serious about both or he's serious about neither. What I was saying is that you can't craft your own intentions, saying "oh well, he was serious about destroying Israel but he's totally ting about nuclear regulation." For my part, I wouldn't try the opposite.

[motiv-8]

No, it hasn't. Iran has hardly done a single thing to threaten the existence of Israel. It has been one of the MOST peaceful countries in the Middle East since World War II.

[The Devil's Sergeant]

No, it hasn't. Iran has hardly done a single thing to threaten the existence of Israel. It has been one of the MOST peaceful countries in the Middle East since World War II.

That was very funny of you to write something so utterly stupid in such a serious manner.

[motiv-8]

Oh? Certainly you have evidence to prove me wrong. Hopefully something more sophisticated than a bunch of stupid-ass smiley faces.

[The Devil's Sergeant]

My my you are certainly an excellent straight man, keeping the joke going like that


On the off chance you aren't joking though, certainly you ever heard of Hezabaloo? (A little Charlie Rangel lingo there!)

[motiv-8]

Why yes, I certainly do. I also couldn't help but notice that your spelling of the name Hizb Allah حزب الله‎ is absolutely pathetic.

Certainly you are aware that what you are referring to is a legitimate and democratic political party of Lebanon, that began its existence as a resistance movement to Israel's invasion and destruction of the southern half of Lebanon? As in, Hizbullah didn't exist until AFTER Israel had destroyed half the country?

It's funny, because I knew exactly what you were going to say, because that's what most ignorant Westerners mention first. My thanks to you for being so transparently predictable.

[The Devil's Sergeant]

Why yes, I certainly do. I also couldn't help but notice that your spelling of the name Hizb Allah حزب الله‎ is absolutely pathetic.

It was quite intentional, as I mentioned, or did you miss that?

Certainly you are aware that what you are referring to is a legitimate and democratic political party of Lebanon, that began its existence as a resistance movement to Israel's invasion and destruction of the southern half of Lebanon? As in, Hizbullah didn't exist until AFTER Israel had destroyed half the country?

That doesn't change the fact that your statement that Iran was one of the "most peaceful nations in the Middle East" was complete rubbish. The fact is Iran sponsors a group that whose purpose to to wage presistant warfare on another country. Though come to think of it, the title of most peaceful ME country isn't exactly a crowded field is it?

It's funny, because I knew exactly what you were going to say, because that's what most ignorant Westerners mention first. My thanks to you for being so transparently predictable.

Yes it was entirely predictable that someone would come along and call you on such stupidity.

[motiv-8]

It was quite intentional, as I mentioned, or did you miss that?

I was still holding out for a responsible, mature, and rational remark from yourself. Should I cease?

That doesn't change the fact that your statement that Iran was one of the "most peaceful nations in the Middle East" was complete rubbish. The fact is Iran sponsors a group that whose purpose to to wage presistant warfare on another country.

Hizbollah's existence is to protect the Shi'a in Lebanon and promote a fair and democratic institution in the country to repair it from decades of civil war, NOT to wage persistent warfare on any other country. It engages in far more humanitarian and social aid work that military endeavors. If you knew a single thing about the group outside of Fox News, you wouldn't be spewing such garbage.

You could try reading one of those magical things we higher folk call "books", like Augustus Norton's Hizbollah: A Short History. You'll feel better once you've learned something.

Iran gives money to Hizbollah primarily because they are both Shi'a groups. You might as well call the Jews in Europe and the United States that give money to Israel terrorists, too.

Yes it was entirely predictable that someone would come along and call you on such stupidity.

You realize you are doing the Internet equivalent of running with scissors, right?

[The Devil's Sergeant]

Ok, now I know you're just being funny! + Rep for the lulz!

[ShADoW]

Ok, now I know you're just being funny! + Rep for the lulz!

Resort to humour when you have no arguements left?

[Pious Agnost]

What's with all the 'Burn the bridge and run' tactics, lately?

[Holger Danske]

What's with all the 'Burn the bridge and run' tactics, lately?

People have just realized how effective the Russian argument tactics are Can't beat them...